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To: CynicalBear; P-Marlowe; HarleyD; xzins
If not, then are you really in control of your own destiny, or is your destiny completely subject to the will and foreknowledge of God?

This line of debate is beginning to sound like another FReeper who infests the RF and always tries to absolve himself of responsibility of his sin with that line of reasoning.

His argument is constantly that if God knew ahead of time what you were going to do, do you have the will to choose otherwise? IOW, why is he responsible for what he did if he can't help himself?

No amount of talking convinces him that foreknowledge is not determinism or predestination.

411 posted on 01/28/2013 6:11:03 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; CynicalBear
His argument is constantly that if God knew ahead of time....

I'm not arguing, I am asking questions. We have already established that God knew ahead of time.

With that in mind, would you like to take a stab at answering the questions?

414 posted on 01/28/2013 6:20:54 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: metmom; P-Marlowe; HarleyD; xzins

The disconnect is rather confounding. I just got asked if there was ever a time when God didn’t know everything. That after saying that God is omniscient, then being asked if God knows everything, now asked if God has always known everything. Did God really say?


416 posted on 01/28/2013 6:25:09 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: metmom; CynicalBear; P-Marlowe; HarleyD; Alamo-Girl

Foreknowledge COUPLED WITH the ability to create is a form of predestination, but it does not absolve the creature of his/her free will decisions that were foreknown.

They are not acted on except by the man/woman doing them, and they are not accountable until actually acted upon. As the bible says, “The WAGES of sin is death.” IOW, committed sin has consequences.


427 posted on 01/28/2013 7:10:25 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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