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To: CynicalBear; metmom
I fail to see how hat proves that all those who are called have no option but to respond in an affirmative way.

I've provided you with three examples now of where God calls people and they get up and follow Him. Please provide me with three scriptural examples of where God went to a specific person and ask him to follow Him and was turned down.

340 posted on 01/27/2013 10:42:55 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; CynicalBear; metmom
Please provide me with three scriptural examples of where God went to a specific person and ask him to follow Him and was turned down.

I was going to say The Rich Young Ruler, but then I realized that the Rich Young Ruler came to Jesus and asked to be a follower. After setting forth a series of preliminary criteria which would be expected of a true follower, it seems that he turned Jesus down.

Perhaps someone else can give a better example.

342 posted on 01/27/2013 10:59:05 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: HarleyD; metmom
>>Please provide me with three scriptural examples of where God went to a specific person and ask him to follow Him and was turned down.<<

John 6:66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

Then we have the parable of the sower. Some heard the word and just turned away. Then there were some who believed but later died and didn’t continue to grow. Certainly you would say that they had been called but turned back.

Matthew 13:5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: 6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.

It’s even possible to turn away after receiving the knowledge of truth

Hebrews 10:26 - For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

So in your “predestination” scenario it gets a little murky when trying to fit those in I would suppose.

345 posted on 01/27/2013 11:27:47 AM PST by CynicalBear
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