Why not?
Would you understand us then to be called to pray for the millions of men/women who are now in hell?
Of course not. Don't go getting Catholic on us. That is also reading more into it than the passage states.
Should we pray for Hitler, Nero, Stalin, Mao? But, they are in the "all" as you see it.
Why not? Nero was emperor when Paul wrote this. He did not make any exceptions. Who know but when some political leader can come to know Christ. Nebuchadnezzar did.
Romans 13:1-7 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.
1 Timothy 2:1-4 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, 2 for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. 3 This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
But if everything is already predestined to happen, why bother praying at all? Why bother sharing? God will save who He wants anyway. Nothing I can do can make a difference. I don't have any choice in the matter, right?
Fatalism does define Calvinism. It shines through whether you guys intend it or not.
Fatalism does define Calvinism. It shines through whether you guys intend it or not."
Ouch! I'm not a "calvinist", but I must be hitting the "anti-Calvinist" nerve. You still have not helped me understand your groupings of mankind...two, three, other?
I suspect that will not be a problem. Just ask all of the RCs around here.
Weve been here before! Im sensing a trend here. Desperately trying to fit scripture into a pre-determined belief.