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Pope: Everyone, Even Atheists, Want to See the Face of God
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| 1/16/13
Posted on 01/16/2013 8:57:49 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: boatbums
As always, spot on! Thank you boatbums.
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posted on
02/05/2013 4:52:23 AM PST
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2)
To: P-Marlowe; CynicalBear; metmom; HarleyD; Kolokotronis; Calvinist_Dark_Lord
ejn {PREP} pivstei {N-DSF} zw’ {V-PAI-1S} th’/ {T-DSF} tou’ {T-GSM} uiJou’ {N-GSM} tou’ {T-GSM} qeou’ {N-GSM} tou’ {T-GSM} ajgaphvsantov? {V-AAP-GSM} me {P-1AS} kai; {CONJ} paradovnto? {V-2AAP-GSM} eJauto;n {F-3ASM} uJpe;r {PREP} ejmou’. {P-1GS}
in faith (en pistai) I am living (zw) that (tn) the Son’s (tou uiou) the God’s (tou theou) loving me (agapnsanto)and (kai) giving (paradonto) himself (heauton) over me (huper emou).
In faith I am living that the Son’s the God’s loving me and giving himself for me.
Paul is describing the faith he lives by.
The Faith that is about the Son of God loving me and giving himself for me.
The “of” or “in” that is being argued about is a genitive article (tou). It is possessive and there is NO word present that means “of” or “in”. Tou is both the article + the sense of possession since it is genitive case.
So it reads: In faith I am living — THAT (faith about) God’s Son’s loving me and giving himself over me.
This is made certain by the use of the dative case with both faith (pistei) and that (te). It is also verified by Son, God, loving, me, and giving ALL being genitive. JMHO.
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posted on
02/05/2013 5:56:41 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
To: P-Marlowe
If God can do anything, can God make anything too heavy for Him to lift?
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
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posted on
02/05/2013 5:58:52 AM PST
by
metmom
(For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
To: P-Marlowe; CynicalBear
I don’t recall anywhere that CB said that he was not capable of falling into error.
Matter of fact, it’s the one’s who think they’re immune from falling into error because they’re part of a group who are in the bigger danger.
Those who are aware of their susceptibility will be constantly referring back to Scripture to make sure they’re on track.
And who is he mocking and where?
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posted on
02/05/2013 6:03:32 AM PST
by
metmom
(For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
To: boatbums; CynicalBear; metmom; P-Marlowe; HarleyD
he wouldn't tell you what he believed
Just that. He obfuscates.
For example:
Cynical bear what are your beliefs about water baptism? Do you think the mode should by sprinkling, immersing, or some other mode or combination of modes?
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posted on
02/05/2013 6:04:01 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
To: metmom
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posted on
02/05/2013 6:04:27 AM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
To: xzins; boatbums; metmom; P-Marlowe; HarleyD
>> Cynical bear what are your beliefs about water baptism? Do you think the mode should by sprinkling, immersing, or some other mode or combination of modes?<<
Show me scripture where either one affects ones salvation.
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posted on
02/05/2013 6:10:54 AM PST
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2)
To: CynicalBear; boatbums; metmom; P-Marlowe; HarleyD
>> Cynical bear what are your beliefs about water baptism? Do you think the mode should by sprinkling, immersing, or some other mode or combination of modes?<< CynicalBear responded: Show me scripture where either one affects ones salvation.
See what I mean, boatbums.....Just dodges and obfuscates.
That's what I call "every wind of doctrine."
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posted on
02/05/2013 6:25:16 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
To: CynicalBear; boatbums; metmom; P-Marlowe; HarleyD
>> Cynical bear what are your beliefs about water baptism? Do you think the mode should by sprinkling, immersing, or some other mode or combination of modes?<< CynicalBear responded: Show me scripture where either one affects ones salvation.
See what I mean, boatbums.....Just dodges and obfuscates.
That's what I call "every wind of doctrine."
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posted on
02/05/2013 6:25:16 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
To: CynicalBear; P-Marlowe; presently no screen name; betty boop; HarleyD; Alamo-Girl; boatbums; ...
Tell me again how belonging to a denomination guards against error. Well.... um.... you see.. ahhh.... it's like this.....
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posted on
02/05/2013 6:30:24 AM PST
by
metmom
(For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
To: metmom; CynicalBear; P-Marlowe; presently no screen name; betty boop; HarleyD; Alamo-Girl; ...
Tell me again how belonging to a denomination guards against error. Well.... um.... you see.. ahhh.... it's like this.....
Tell me how being a self-created house church guards against error.
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posted on
02/05/2013 6:37:26 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
To: P-Marlowe; CynicalBear; xzins; HarleyD
Wouldn't it be better if the lurkers were able to see your statement of faith, compare it to scripture, review your posts for consistency with your doctrinal statement and admonish you if your beliefs and doctrines are inconsistent or in error? No. Because they can compare his STATEMENTS to Scripture. Why add the middle man of doctrinal statements? There's no guarantee THOSE aren't in error. Then people are stuck comparing doctrinal statements for constancy, and the comparing CB's comments to BOTH Scripture and Doctrinal statements.
Better to just go right to the source; authoritative Scripture.
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posted on
02/05/2013 6:38:47 AM PST
by
metmom
(For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
To: P-Marlowe; CynicalBear; xzins; HarleyD
Wouldn't it be better if the lurkers were able to see your statement of faith, compare it to scripture, review your posts for consistency with your doctrinal statement and admonish you if your beliefs and doctrines are inconsistent or in error? No. Because they can compare his STATEMENTS to Scripture. Why add the middle man of doctrinal statements? There's no guarantee THOSE aren't in error. Then people are stuck comparing doctrinal statements for constancy, and the comparing CB's comments to BOTH Scripture and Doctrinal statements.
Better to just go right to the source; authoritative Scripture.
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posted on
02/05/2013 6:39:47 AM PST
by
metmom
(For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
To: P-Marlowe; CynicalBear
No, dispute YOUR interpretation of scripture. Unless you are infallible, your interpretation of scripture is not TRUTH. It is your opinion. Do you claim to be infallible in your interpretation of any and all verses in the Bible? Or do you think that there are some ideas you may have developed about certain verses which just might be..... (gasp).... wrong?
Take heed lest you fall.
The EXACT same arguments Catholics use to justify their magisterium and *sacred tradition*.
All those things you posited to be a problem with DB as an individual can be applied to whole groups or denominations. They are NOT exempt from the same problems with interpretation which an individual is.
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posted on
02/05/2013 6:45:34 AM PST
by
metmom
(For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
To: xzins; boatbums; metmom; P-Marlowe; HarleyD
Ill put it a different way. Two men have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior. One is baptized by sprinkling; the other is baptized by immersion. Which one is saved?
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posted on
02/05/2013 6:46:50 AM PST
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2)
To: xzins; metmom; P-Marlowe; presently no screen name; betty boop; HarleyD; Alamo-Girl
>> Tell me how being a self-created house church guards against error.<<
Self created you say!! What other things do you believe simply by conjecture?
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posted on
02/05/2013 6:50:35 AM PST
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2)
To: HarleyD; CynicalBear
CB:
Would you please show the post where someone denied the trinity? HD:Would you like me to post where someone won't admit to the Trinity? Same thing.
Oh, absolutely not the same thing.
It's just that manipulation thing again.
Not engaging in your attempts to label people does not mean an answer. You can't presume the answer you want to hear because someone is wise to what's going on and won't engage.
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posted on
02/05/2013 6:58:43 AM PST
by
metmom
(For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
To: HarleyD; CynicalBear
CB:
Would you please show the post where someone denied the trinity? HD:Would you like me to post where someone won't admit to the Trinity? Same thing.
Oh, absolutely not the same thing.
It's just that manipulation thing again.
Not engaging in your attempts to label people does not mean an answer. You can't presume the answer you want to hear because someone is wise to what's going on and won't engage.
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posted on
02/05/2013 6:59:01 AM PST
by
metmom
(For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
To: CynicalBear; boatbums; P-Marlowe; metmom
Ill put it a different way. Two men have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior. One is baptized by sprinkling; the other is baptized by immersion. Which one is saved?
So, are you saying that mode makes no difference? I said to choose: sprinking, immersion, some other mode or combination of modes.
You appear to be choosing "combination of modes". Is that correct?
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posted on
02/05/2013 7:01:51 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
To: HarleyD
OK, Hebrews 6:1-2 is some doctrine.
But it doesn't mention any doctrines about the Trinity.....
The rest of the verses REFER to doctrine but do not state exactly what it is.
God teaches us doctrine through His word but not everyone is taught it.
Really? The Holy Spirit doesn't lead us all into truth through His word?
That's an interesting concept.
He does not like it when we say things that are not true about Him.
No kidding. That's why we go back to His word...
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posted on
02/05/2013 7:07:41 AM PST
by
metmom
(For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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