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To: Iscool
"Since one set of Ignatius' writings mention nothing 'Catholic', we can assume you are quoting the known forged writings that were attributed to Ignatius???"

Stop using anti-Catholic websites as your sources and actually go to a university library. There are 15 extant letters allegedly authored by St. Ignatius. the seven epistles of Ignatius of Antioch were forged in the 3rd or 4th centuries. The other 8 are genuine. (note: The fact that some would seek to have forgeries associated with St. Ignatius only reinforced the value of his legitimate letters.) The term Catholic was used in The Epistle to the Smyrneans, one of the eight legitimate letters.

The term was also used by other second century authors in the Martyrdom of Polycarp, written in c. 155 AD, and in the Muratorian fragment written in c. 177 AD.

Peace be with you

895 posted on 01/10/2013 2:30:58 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law
The term Catholic was used in The Epistle to the Smyrneans, one of the eight legitimate letters.

Ignatius did not use the term Catholic...He used the term catholic...You want to tell what set of letters contain the term Eucharist???

902 posted on 01/10/2013 3:04:10 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Natural Law; Iscool
The term Catholic was used in The Epistle to the Smyrneans, one of the eight legitimate letters. The term was also used by other second century authors in the Martyrdom of Polycarp, written in c. 155 AD, and in the Muratorian fragment written in c. 177 AD.

And also:

The word Catholic (katholikos from katholou — throughout the whole, i.e., universal) occurs in the Greek classics, e.g., in Aristotle and Polybius, and was freely used by the earlier Christian writers in what we may call its primitive and non-ecclesiastical sense. Thus we meet such phrases as the "the catholic resurrection" (Justin Martyr), "the catholic goodness of God" (Tertullian), "the four catholic winds" (Irenaeus), where we should now speak of "the general resurrection", "the absolute or universal goodness of God", "the four principal winds", etc. The word seems in this usage to be opposed to merikos (partial) or idios (particular), and one familiar example of this conception still survives in the ancient phrase "Catholic Epistles" as applied to those of St. Peter, St. Jude, etc., which were so called as being addressed not to particular local communities, but to the Church at large. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03449a.htm

1,000 posted on 01/10/2013 10:55:18 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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