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To: Heart-Rest
Now, seriously, does that sound like a God who does NOT choose quite often to communicate through imperfect, weak, frail human instruments?

You are obviously trying to rely on your human wisdom and common sense instead of seeking the truth in God's word, the scriptures...

There are 3 people in the Trinity...The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit...The Father is seated, right now in Heaven...Jesus is seated at his right hand...They do not leave Heaven...

The last one is the Holy Spirit who resides at the moment on planet earth...

Jesus is not indwelling anyone, including any Catholic priests...The one who indwells people is the Holy Spirit...And those who are indwelt with the Holy Spirit are as close to God as any priest, bishop or pope has ever been or ever will be...

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

And if we listen to the words of Jesus,

Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Jesus did not say to come to a priest...Or Mary...Or a Saint...Jesus said, Come unto me and I will give you rest...Not Mary, not a priest and not a pope...

And then God's written words say,

Heb 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

And the throne of grace is not in a confessional asking a priest for forgiveness...And the throne of grace is not Mary...

I have a laser straight and faster than the speed of light cable connection with the one who created all that there is...And you want me to waste my time with some sinner like myself hoping he will forgive my sins???

1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1Co 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1Co 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1Co 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1Co 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
1Co 3:21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;
1Co 3:22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
1Co 3:23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

I don't buy into your self perceived wisdom...Why, a man would be a fool to trust his eternal salvation to another man who claims to be Jesus...I could post scripture all day long refuting your human philosophy...

396 posted on 01/08/2013 8:04:24 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool
"I don't buy into your self perceived wisdom...Why, a man would be a fool to trust his eternal salvation to another man who claims to be Jesus...I could post scripture all day long refuting your human philosophy... "

In my post which you are referring to, I did not express any "philosophy" at all, nor did I express any kind of "self perceived wisdom".

I merely stated some simple facts, and asked you some simple questions. They can all be boiled down to their simplist forms, which I will repeat here.

The factual statements: God deliberately chose imperfect, weak, frail human beings as His instruments of communication to write every single Book in the Bible for Him (both in the "Old Testament" and in the "New Testament"). Not one single Book in the Bible was ever written where God did not specifically make use of an imperfect, weak, frail human being who God had specifically chosen for that communication task to write that Book.

Neither of those statements is a "philosophy" -- they are simply statements of fact. They are either true, or they are not true.

My question to you was/is, do you believe those statements are true, or do you believe they are not true?

My point is also a statement of fact that is either true, or not true, and simply says that God often chooses to delegate various tasks (which He can easily do on His own if He wills it) to imperfect, weak, frail human beings to perform. Do you deny that?

503 posted on 01/08/2013 6:43:46 PM PST by Heart-Rest ("The Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth." (1 Timothy 3:15))
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