LUMEN GENTIUM, 16: But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Mohammedans, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind. - http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19641121_unitatis-redintegratio_en.html
Rome clearly states that Muslims, along with us adore the one and merciful God, and this is not the "unknown God" among many possibles that Paul referred to in Acts 17, but much the opposite, Islam claims a certain distinct being as the true God, and imagines to correct us as ones who are in error (regardless of the fact that not one ancient MSS even from before Muhammad agrees with the Islamic "corrective" contradictions).
I know that RCAs labor to reconcile this, this example alone illustrates how RCs cannot escape the need for interpretation of their supreme authority, and is one of the reasons for the RC sects.
The other one is if it you believe that Mary can be prayed to (as the Popes do) and if you believe that salvation comes from Mary without the help of Jesus as Popes have stated as truth.
I know of no statement that in context states the latter. The closest that comes to mind is one attributed to Eadmer (A.D. 1060–1124), an English monk and student of Anselm, “
'...sometimes salvation is quicker if we remember Mary's name then if we invoked the name of the Lord Jesus...[who] does not at once, answer anyone who invokes him, but only does so after just judgment. But if the name of his mother Mary is invoked, her merits intercede so that he is answered even if the merits of him who invoked her do not deserve it.” (http://www.equip.org/PDF/JAC166.pdf)
However, i cannot find the actual source. However, similar excess exaltations which are "above that which is written" (cf. 1 Cor. 4:6) abound:
"As Mother of the Word Incarnate, Mary was elevated to a certain equality with the Heavenly Father."
"surpassing in power all the angels and saints in Heaven."
"It was not only during the Passion that Jesus and Mary suffer ed for our sins, for all their lives that heartrending vision was before them in every detail, and never for a moment forgotten."
"I believe you are thinking of Next to God, she deserves the highest praise......all graces of the Precious Blood come through Mary. No grace is given without her intercession.'
"The union between the Immaculata and the Holy Spirit is so inexpressible, yet so perfect, that the Holy Spirit acts only by the Most Blessed Virgin, his Spouse. This is why she is the mediatrix of all graces given by the Holy Spirit. And since every grace is a gift of God the Father through the Son and by the Holy Spirit, it follows that there is no grace which Mary cannot dispose of as her own, which is not given to her for this purpose."
Sources for above: here :
We were condemned through the fault of one woman; we are saved through the merits of another woman. Just as Eve was the root of death for everyone, so Mary was the source of life for everyone. - Ten Series of Meditations on the Mysteries of the Rosary by John Ferraro
The below attributed quotes are from "The glories of Mary, mother of God,' by Alphonsus Liguori, January 1833, (at the time of the canonization of Liguori nothing was found in his writings meriting censure),
It is a reflection of St. Augustine, that as Mary merited to give human flesh to the Son of God, and thereby prepared the price of our redemption, she is consequently more enabled to obtain our salvation, than all the redeemed together. " You then can entirely save us, O Mary," says St. John Dama scene to her, " for your authority of Mother, gives an irresistible force to your prayers. p. 135
the height of grace. Mary is all my confidence, Mary is the foundation of my hope." p. 145
" You then can entirely save us, O Mary," says St. John Dama scene to her, " for your authority of Mo ther, gives an irresistible force to your prayers. O admirable goodness of our God, who to effect our future happiness, has given us an advocate that gains every cause in which she pleads. p. 145
It is by me they govern their senses and rule over their passions, that they may render themselves worthy of reigning eternally in heaven." Mary is that tower, whence it is said in the Canticles, a thousand bucklers are sus pended with all the arms of the valiant men. To all her servants who have recourse to her in their combats, she is as it were an impregnable tower fortified with arms of every description to enable them to fight against hell. p. 59
...St. Antoninus says, " as those from whom Mary turns her mer ciful eyes, cannot be saved, it necessarily follows, that those on whom she looks with benignity, will share in eternal glory." p. 159
"...the people who will not serve you [Mary] shall perish," ... "he who does not invoke her shall have no share in the kingdom of God ;" p. 159
"...St. Ignatius Martyr, had pronounced, that a sinner can only be saved by having recourse to the blessed Virgin, whose infinite mercy obtains salvation for those who are condemned by infinite justice." p. 146
David already prayed the Lord to preserve him from bell, because of his zeal for the honor of Mary. " Lord" said he, " I have loved the beauty of thy house, let not my soul perish with the impious." He says "of thy house," because Mary is that house of the purest gold, that God himself erected to be his habitation on earth, and his place of repose when he came to dwell amongst us. p. 162,63
When, therefore the winds blow, and the floods of temptation rise, let us say to Mary, what St. Peter said to Jesus Christ, " save us, we perish." p. 123
"...as Pharoah said to the Egyptians, when in want of bread, " go to Joseph," so when we ask some grace of God, he says to us, " go to Mary." " Christians" says Richard of St. Laurence, " can say to Mary, as the Egyptians to Joseph, " our salvation is in thy hands," and Cassian, that " the salvation of all men is in the protection of Mary." p. 124
"...we have not access to Jesus Christ but through Mary, that this divine Saviour whom she has given to the world, may receive us from her hands." p. 125
When Mary, he continues, presents herself before Jesus, the altar of reconciliation, to mediate for us, she ra ther seems to dictate than to supplicate, and has more the air of a Queen than of a subject. p. 131
Undoubtedly," says St. Bernard, " Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and man, but because men fear that divine person who is destined one day to judge them, it has been necessary to give them [a mediator with the mediator, and none was so fit for this office as Mary his Mother...advocate, who knows how to appease the Lord... p. 141
She moreover procured me the abridgement of my torments in Purgatory the divine justice at her suit.. p. 41
The principal office given to Mary wben she appeared on earth was to raise man from sin and to reconcile him with God Pasce hados tuas Feed your goats said the Lord in creating her We know that sinners arc designated by the goats as the just are by the sheep The goats says William of Paris are confided to you O Mary that you may transform them into sheep thus whilst they deserved to be sent to the left hand they shall through your intercession be placed at the right 146,47 (http://books.google.com/books?id=o1cFAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Glories+of+Mary&hl=en&sa=X&ei=93kEUYrFIsix0QHHqoC4Dg&ved=0CEsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Glories%20of%20Mary&f=false)
"our compassionate and benign Mother was satisfied rather to endure any torment than that our souls should not be redeemed, and be left in their former state of perdition." "The Glories of Mary;" 1868; http://www.ewtn.com/library/MARY/7DOLORS.htm
[I posted above that it is Catholic doctrine (from a Pope) that the] Muslims have the same God that Catholics have.(A little more context for clarity)
[Their god is called Allah.]
LUMEN GENTIUM, 16: But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator.They may profess to hold the faith of Abraham, but they do NOT adore the one and merciful God...of the Bible.
In the first place amongst these there are the Mohammedans, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham,
along with us adore the one and merciful God...
Allah has a prophet, Muhammad who was a horrible sinner and murderer.
God the Father from the Bible has a Son, Jesus.
Allah has no son, so he cannot be the same God.
Islam's god converts by the sword (kills "infidels") if a person doesn't convert to their belief system.
The God of the Bible offers salvation by the blood sacrifice of His Son Jesus.
In fact the Islamists hate the fact that our God has a Son, and are working hard to change the Bible
to reflect the attributes of their god, instead of our Christian God.
A simple google search reveals the lengths they are going to to re write the Bible to be Islam friendly.
Google search: new bible translations muslim
Also Jihad Watch
They are trying to merge the God of the Bible with their false god.
The Pope is wrong.
The other one is if it you believe that Mary can be prayed to (as the Popes do) and if you believe
that salvation comes from Mary without the help of Jesus as Popes have stated as truth.
I know of no statement that in context states the latter.
Here are a few, and I have to apologize because I thought I posed the question on this
thread about Salvation through Mary, but it was a different one, nevertheless, I have asked it on this one.
“God has committed to her the treasury of all good things, in order that everyone may know that through her are obtained every hope, every grace, and all salvation. For this is his will, that we obtain everything through Mary.” (Pius IX: Encycl., Ubi primum, February 2, 1849.) — [p. 12, number 12] (No, we obtain everything through Jesus.)The Catholic Church puts ALL her hope in trust in Mary. Not Jesus.
“O Virgin most holy, none abounds in the knowledge of God except through thee; none, O Mother of God, obtains salvation except through thee..." (Leo XIII: Encycl., Adiutricem populi, September 5, 1895.) — [p. 12, no. 13]
“God has committed to the Blessed Virgin Mary the treasury of all good things in order that everyone may know that through her are obtained every hope, every grace and all salvation.” (Pius IX: Encycl., Ubi primum, February 2, 1894) — [p. 18, no. 38]
“O Holy Mother of God; to thee we lift our prayers for thou, powerful and merciful, art the Mediatrix of our salvation.” (Leo XIII: Encycl., Jucunda semper, September 8, 1894.) — [p. 19, no. 43] (No, that is Jesus, not Mary.)
13. “The Catholic Church has always and with justice put all her hope and trust in the Mother of God.” (Leo XIII: Encyclical, Supreme Apostolatus, September 1, 1883.) — [p. 32, no. 104] (Not Jesus, Mary..ALL her [The Catholic Church] hope and trust)
Now I imagine it will be argued, Oh yes, it's through Mary, she points to Jesus.
That is not real clear from Popes IMO.