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To: terycarl; boatbums

if the Roman Catholic Church WERE the same one begun in the first century
they would have stayed true to the Gospel and remained faithful to the truth established by Jesus and enscripturated by the Apostles and their disciples.

O.K....if not the Roman Catholic church, then which denomination started at the time of Christ followed His instruction and guidance more closely.....for the entire 2,013 years.....from beginning until now??

It was not a denomination, those started much later.

It was Christians.

There were thousands of them in the first century.

Many of those that Jesus preached to followed him, they did NOT follow the non existent Catholic church.

There were Christians back then, but NO Catholics.

Except in the sense of the fact that the Church founded on the basis of salvation and following Jesus, all those members were a part of the catholic church. Catholic means universal, ie all the followers, born again and saved, of Jesus.

Many years later a group of people started a denomination called Catholicism.

Then they co-opted the word catholic, added a big "C" at the beginning of the word, and started proclaiming themselves the only true Christians. [Kind of like the homosexuals taking and changing the word gay]

They were so sure of that, that later they started killing the actual true Christians because the wanted to follow Jesus and his fantastic teachings instead of the "Church Fathers."

2,446 posted on 01/20/2013 2:03:07 PM PST by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 - Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Syncro
Many years later a group of people started a denomination called Catholicism.

nope...as you said, there were thousands of them and they BECAME KNOWN, by the public and themselves, as Catholic. The title can therefore be attributed to those who came before.....That's not a big deal in and of itself....there was a group of people, starting with the Apostles, who venerated Christ, followed Him as the Reedemer and postulated their beliefs to the masses. As they grew in number they became known as Catholics.....whatever....it was one group of people which grew to what the Catholic church is now.

2,469 posted on 01/20/2013 3:09:06 PM PST by terycarl
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To: Syncro
They were so sure of that, that later they started killing the actual true Christians

oh good grief

2,471 posted on 01/20/2013 3:11:06 PM PST by terycarl
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