The teachers, ministers etc. are not "more guilty" nor did I say that...there were just more of them.
the Catholic church did not handle the situation as well as should have been expected, but they've certainly gotten a handle on it and now have very strict methods concerning future possible situations.
the effecacy of a sacrament does not depend on the state of sin which the minister of that sacrament is in....it probably effects his own soul, but not the sacrament. Consecration, even by a man who is not in the state of grace is no less effective than by a man in perfect harmony with God.
Your exact words were (copied and pasted) all those other groups are FAR more guilty of child molestation than are Catholic clergy.....far more.
No where did you say or imply it was because of numbers.
This is the second time the lack of edit function has proved useful.
the effecacy of a sacrament does not depend on the state of sin which the minister of that sacrament is in....it probably effects his own soul, but not the sacrament. Consecration, even by a man who is not in the state of grace is no less effective than by a man in perfect harmony with God.
GAG!!! That is just so revolting.
It ought to make a difference. God didn't tolerate it from His priests in Israel. Those passages have already been posted.
Isaiah 59:1-13 Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save, or his ear dull, that it cannot hear; 2 but your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden his face from you so that he does not hear. 3 For your hands are defiled with blood and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies; your tongue mutters wickedness. 4 No one enters suit justly; no one goes to law honestly; they rely on empty pleas, they speak lies, they conceive mischief and give birth to iniquity.
5 They hatch adders' eggs; they weave the spider's web; he who eats their eggs dies, and from one that is crushed a viper is hatched. 6 Their webs will not serve as clothing; men will not cover themselves with what they make. Their works are works of iniquity, and deeds of violence are in their hands.
7 Their feet run to evil, and they are swift to shed innocent blood; their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; desolation and destruction are in their highways. 8 The way of peace they do not know, and there is no justice in their paths; they have made their roads crooked; no one who treads on them knows peace.
9 Therefore justice is far from us, and righteousness does not overtake us; we hope for light, and behold, darkness, and for brightness, but we walk in gloom. 10 We grope for the wall like the blind; we grope like those who have no eyes; we stumble at noon as in the twilight, among those in full vigor we are like dead men.
11 We all growl like bears; we moan and moan like doves; we hope for justice, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far from us. 12 For our transgressions are multiplied before you, and our sins testify against us; for our transgressions are with us, and we know our iniquities: 13 transgressing, and denying the Lord, and turning back from following our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart lying words.
Psalm 66:18 If I had cherished iniquity in my heart, the Lord would not have listened.
Jeremiah 14:10-11 Thus says the Lord concerning this people: “They have loved to wander thus; they have not restrained their feet; therefore the Lord does not accept them; now he will remember their iniquity and punish their sins.”
11 The Lord said to me: “Do not pray for the welfare of this people. 12 Though they fast, I will not hear their cry, and though they offer burnt offering and grain offering, I will not accept them. But I will consume them by the sword, by famine, and by pestilence.”
If Catholics think that God is hearing their priests with that kind of sin on their hands and in their hearts, they need to think again.
Handle on it?
And then they have the NERVE to *consecrate* the host, lifting it up in their hands, believing that they are turning the host into the body and blood of Jesus, with those same hands that molested those little boys. How is that not worse than others doing it? How are teachers and scout leaders far more
guilty of crime than that priest?the Catholic church did not handle the situation as well as should have been expected, but they've certainly gotten a handle on it and now
the effecacy of a sacrament does not depend on the state of sin which the minister of that sacrament is in
Allowing molesters of kids to do what the Catholics hold up as one of the most important, Holy things it does? Allow them to do THAT while "in a state of sin?" The sin of molesting children in the most vile base sexual way?
Christians churches would NEVER let anything close to that to happen.
For shame.
Example of an unacceptable answer:
*but* that happens much more in Protestant churches.