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To: boatbums
Can we at least clarify something here? When you, Terycarl, use the word "Catholic church" do you mean the Roman Catholic Church as it exists today?

yes, I mean the church as it exists today....and it the EXACT same church that Jesus founded on the Apostles...

2,293 posted on 01/19/2013 12:59:02 PM PST by terycarl
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To: terycarl; boatbums
yes, I mean the church as it exists today....and it the EXACT same church that Jesus founded on the Apostles...

Just to clarify....

Do you mean as the church is revealed in the book of Acts?

2,295 posted on 01/19/2013 1:06:01 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: terycarl
Can we at least clarify something here? When you, Terycarl, use the word "Catholic church" do you mean the Roman Catholic Church as it exists today?

yes, I mean the church as it exists today....and it the EXACT same church that Jesus founded on the Apostles...

Sorry, anyone who truly believes that is deluded because, if the Roman Catholic Church WERE the same one begun in the first century they would have stayed true to the Gospel and remained faithful to the truth established by Jesus and enscripturated by the Apostles and their disciples. What calls itself the Catholic Church today only vaguely resembles what Christ established and that's ONLY because of some of the doctrines that they still teach but which MANY other churches also teach. It is obvious to me that Scripture defines the church as the ENTIRE Body of Christ for all time and it certainly would not be confined to the one that not only ceased to proclaim the message of salvation by grace through faith to the world, but also persecuted those who did and which continues to this day to exclude from fellowship those who are genuinely in Christ.

All the talk of "Ecumenicalism" and restoring Christian unity is no more than a trick for everyone having to agree to bow the knee to Rome and accept the Pope as the leader of Christendom. For nearly one thousand years, the Eastern Orthodox have not been bribed or cajoled into this Faustian bargain and if they will not, it's a good bet the rest of Christianity won't be either. I certainly will not.

2,359 posted on 01/19/2013 10:00:18 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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