Aside from the hygienic detractions I saw the perfect examples of the kind of manger (stall or pen) I referred to in my post #1716. I guess it is hard to recognize something that is right under your nose if you have to keep your nose pinched.
Peace and blessings
Scripture says that Mary laid Jesus in a manger because there was no room for them in the inn.
Now, unless she gave birth out in the open, or in public, she did it in a stable or barn, and I’d say it’s a pretty good bet that she did not give birth IN the manger, so it had to have been on the floor.
Not pristine.