Posted on 01/06/2013 3:56:49 PM PST by NYer
Words such as "false" "wrong" "error" do not attribute motive.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Which post contains a dispute from a prior thread?
Don’t quit yer day job! Comedy Central wants its mike back. :o)
Jesus said all authority was given to HIM.
You do know that at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow?
Not to the pope, but to Jesus.
The popes who are taking that kind of adoration are robbing God. They obviously never took any lessons from Herod in Acts 12.
Nope! Not mine at all. The explanation came from Barnes’ Notes on the Bible (I gave the link, did you miss it?).
That's right. No credit to God for Scripture. The Catholic church gets all the glory and credit.
Catholics and the Catholic church are on really thin ice with their claims for being responsible for the Bible.
Acts 12
A what????
the first among equals = oxymoron
There is no paucity of miracles in Christianity. They just aren't believed by Catholics because they're not RCC *approved*.
What's the criticism of having no private revelation when that's what Catholics claim is wrong with Protestantism, private revelation?
No praying to saints. No point it it. It's disobedience to the clear teaching of Jesus on how to pray.
Christians don't need exorcism because they aren't possessed for greater is He who is in the Christian than He who is in the world.
Where or where is that reason and rationalism that Protestantism claims trumps all? Why not apply it to the acts of men instead of just the doctrines of the Church? Translation is not simply a mechanical conversion of text from one language to another, it requires a discovery of the intent of the original authors, and a fluency in Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin, and Koine Greek, harmonized in the context of the whole.
I am asserting that Luther did not have time to do anything other than imprint the German translations with his own predetermined meanings, substituting that for the original meanings. Remember too, that Koine Greek was not a spoken or living language in the 16th century,
A modern retranslation of the New Testament, with computers, databases, language experts, archaeologists consultants and research teams takes several years to perform. The acceptance of Luther's story requires a suspension of disbelief that I am not willing to extend to him.
Peace be with you
yes...Peter was the bishop of Rome.
ROFLOL A Catholic who thinks elder should be priest accusing Luther of trying to “imprint” is funny but really sad at the same time.
Would you please show from scripture what the time frame of that was?
Calvin presents human nature as very nearly corrupt, so much so that he saw very few passing through the narrow gate. We tend to forget the apocalyptic nature of much reform thinking at the time. Think of the anabaptists et al. Plague and war and the corruptions in the Church. The Sultan right at the door of Christendom. The Emperor at war with his princes. And, yes, if you look at the behavior of ordinary men. Not a pretty picture, especially as seen through the eyes of a fanatic like Calvin, or one like Loyola. Calvin’s intellect made him indeed more realistic than the duller blades. He seems personally not to have cared a flip about the forms of ecceciology, or even liturgy, and less inclined to iconoclasm. If he was puritan, it was one more like Cotton Mather. But his notions of justice and mercy are too Mohammedan for me.
And he devolved that authority on the Church, which is to say the elders and the assembly.
stop laughing...you repeated what I said....now remember this happened 2,000 years ago and the apostles were itinerent preachers who moved from one point to another....I really don't think that they transcribed their experiences as they went along. Tape recorders probably were not in use. They, at meetings, recalled what happened and where. I'm sure that they, at one time or another, had someone take notes so as to pass their message to others. The totality of what they taught and said was preserved for you by the Catholic church....say "Thanks Catholics"!!!
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