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To: editor-surveyor

“The “Church” is a mystic body, whose members are indiscernable, thus not governable.”

Then why did Christ preach, “by the fruits you will know them? Why did he appoint the 12 to serve as his disciples? Was not Peter rebuked for denying that he was one of Christ’s disciples?

As Christ himself said - the world will hate you because they hated me. Any of you who is not hated is not his servant. You can tell his true disciples.

“The Church has no offices on Earth; it is headed by Christ, and guided by the Holy Spirit.”

And Christ himself appointed the 12, and as Acts itself says, the 12 replaced their own members.

“Christ called those that would turn his church into a governed body “Nicolaitans,” and stated that he hates them.”

Where does he say this?

“The Holy Spirit guides teachers (pastors / bishops) but appoints none of them over anyone. So, yes, he left no one to govern his church, but he left many to guide it.”

So the Holy Spirit did not elevate the disciples to Apostles?


46 posted on 12/25/2012 11:18:09 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind. - John Steinbeck :))
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To: JCBreckenridge

>> “and as Acts itself says, the 12 replaced their own members.” <<

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Yes, it does say that, but there is no recorded fruit from the “appointed” replacement, and he was quickly replaced by Paul as the 12th apostle.

>> “Where does he say this?” <<

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IN his “Letters to the seven churches” in Revelation.

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> “So the Holy Spirit did not elevate the disciples to Apostles?” <<

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All of the apostles were appointed by Christ, in person.

The apostles were charged in the Great Commission with spreading the way to all the world. When they were gone, the Holy Spirit provided all of the guidance to the church through his pastors, and still does to this day.

You cannot look up Christ’s church in any phone book; you have to seek it through prayer.


49 posted on 12/25/2012 11:39:46 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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