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To: CynicalBear
Who says they are not free to marry?

They themselves said so when they took their vows.

Find for me from scripture where the disciples taught that Mary was to be revered or that they taught that Mary was bodily taken to heaven.

They simply revered her: Luke 11:27. St. John saw her in heaven, Apocalypse/Revelation 12 whole chapter.

where we are to pray to Mary.

The example is John 2:3, where Mary intercedes for a human need.

Now, where is it written in the Holy Scripture that unless there is an instruction to do something written down in it, we should not do it?

Vicar of Christ in not Christ and does not claim to be.
Ephesians 2:8-9 seems to teach one thing if you remove verse 10. Together, and better start with verse 4 through 10, that passage teaches what is the Catohlic teaching, that we are saved by Grace alone, which is not from works but is rather a divine gift, and that we must do good works. Read the scripture every now and then and you will be Catholic, like me, and understand it.

The rest of your "cult" points are equally nonsense, or apply to any organization beside a cult, including your "churches".

840 posted on 12/13/2012 6:36:42 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
Find for me from scripture where the disciples taught that Mary was to be revered or that they taught that Mary was bodily taken to heaven.

They simply revered her: Luke 11:27.

Luke 11:27:

27As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, "Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you."

In Luke 11:28 Jesus rebukes the statement in 27 to make it clear that Mary isn't to be exalted above all other humans and in fact the following includes her.

28He replied, “Blessed rather [Adverb - Used to indicate one's preference in a particular matter] are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”

It's clear from the words of Jesus that all are blessed if they hear the word of God and obey it. Mary did this, and so has every Christian since the beginning that has that personal "saved" relationship with God.

Here is your statement at the end sent back to you, with a little editing:

Read the scripture every now and then and you will be Catholic Christian, like me, and understand it.

; > )

1,024 posted on 12/14/2012 10:33:48 AM PST by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead-->MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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