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To: Natural Law
... Rest assured, many Catholics are very well versed in Scripture and do not need Protestants to approach us at the level of telling us what the Bible is, what it does and does not contain and what it means.

You could have fooled me.

As for men committing to men, the Scripture you used for your illustration says: ...and of him to whom men commit much they will demand the more."

The Scripture offers no such words, no matter how you wish to twist it. You use Scriptures like a tool, but ignore what it says. Jesus was speaking to his disciples about requirements of life after He left them.

Your dismissal of Darby's also shows that you either had a lot of knowledge of his teachings, or you went back to your "catholic answers" for a response! Either way, your post further illustrates the RC laity lack of trying to educate him/herself, by posting such nonsense.

The Word says what it says, not what the RCC says it says! Please tell us where you find the basis for the heresy of your Mariology in the Word of God?

I have all the peace I need. I am covered by the Blood of Christ! You can use your favored closing until the cows come home, but my peace is from God, not from one so easily led by indoctrinations from their youth, (apparently in attempt to persuade others of their saintliness?)! If I really wanted to be snarky, I'd say "Peace on you!" It seems similar...

Just my opinions, based on my life of study! Only the Holy Spirit can guide you to the Truth John 16:7ff)! I end with a few of Paul's words to Timothy... Yet I am not ashamed, because I know whom I have believed, and am convinced that he is able to guard what I have entrusted to him for that day. -NIV

776 posted on 12/13/2012 1:01:19 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Hang in there, America. Fight for what is right." - Sarah Palin 11/7/12)
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To: WVKayaker; Salvation
Only the Holy Spirit can guide you to the Truth John 16:7ff)! I end with a few of Paul's words to Timothy... Yet I am not ashamed, because I know whom I have believed, and am convinced that he is able to guard what I have entrusted to him for that day. -NIV

Thanks you so much for that, how true!

I asked this of salvation a couple of times, but got no answers.

I thought the following translation was a bit too Marianic:

"I will put enmity between you and the woman, between your seed (offspring) and hers; He (she) will crush your head while you strike at his (her) heel." - Genesis 3:15

I can't find that exact wording of Gen 3:15 in a parallel Bible, does it come from a Catholic translation?

Do you know if the Catholics have their own translation, which seems to subsitute Mary for Jesus?
779 posted on 12/13/2012 1:33:34 PM PST by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead-->MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: WVKayaker
"The Word says what it says, not what the RCC says it says!"

And there, as they say, is the rub. From a Catholic perspective the Word says what it says, and has always said and not what the Reformers later "discovered" it says!". It is a question of authority. We Catholics believe that Jesus left us a Church with a teaching authority to prevent the issues associated with each persons experiences, biases, and limitations becoming his own personal Magisterium.

I am familiar with Darby and I reject outright his "discoveries" as they clash with the orthodoxy present with Church teaching since the first century. I do not doubt his sincerity, only his authority and therefore his accuracy. Neither he, nor you, nor I have been blessed with infallibility as the living consensus of the Catholic Episcopacy, the Magisterium, has been.

I sincerely do with you peace and beatitude.

792 posted on 12/13/2012 4:49:53 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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