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To: metmom
"And the low morals of so many of your popes and priests..."

“If we still seek medical care despite bad doctors, if we still seek to learn despite bad teachers, if we still shop despite rude clerks, we should still belong to the Church despite the bad members of the Church. After all, if the Church were to admit to her ranks only perfect and sinless members, we ourselves would not be allowed to join. The Church is a hospital for sinners, people just like us and even worse, with faults and foibles, who are called, with the help of God, to love God and neighbor better.” — Dr. Christopher Kaczor, Professor of Philosophy at Loyola Marymount

544 posted on 12/11/2012 6:55:39 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law
despite the bad members of the Church.

Bad teachings produce bad members. The fish stinks from the head down.

548 posted on 12/11/2012 7:38:04 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Natural Law
"And the low morals of so many of your popes and priests..."

"If we still seek medical care despite bad doctors, if we still seek to learn despite bad teachers, if we still shop despite rude clerks, we should still belong to the Church despite the bad members of the Church. After all, if the Church were to admit to her ranks only perfect and sinless members, we ourselves would not be allowed to join. The Church is a hospital for sinners, people just like us and even worse, with faults and foibles, who are called, with the help of God, to love God and neighbor better." — Dr. Christopher Kaczor

The issue is about the leadership, which was not addressed at all.

Bad doctors, clerks, and teachers would be fired, not moved to another hospital/store/school to continue their bad behavior, as is done with preists in many cases. At at least as long as the accusations don't show up.

A pope whose "celibate" father was a pope should never have been a pope. Or his father.

The Bible has very strict guidelined of leaders so that when the sinners come to church they can have good examples to follow.

757 posted on 12/13/2012 10:45:15 AM PST by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead-->MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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