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To: CynicalBear
Yes, in 1 Peter 2:5 "ιερατευμα αγιον", "holy priesthood" is a reference to priesthood of all Catholic men, and it does derive from "ιερευς". However, it does not refer to sacramental priesthood, but rather to the priestly obligation a head of household has toward his family.

When speaking of ordained priests, St. Paul uses that contentious word again, "επιθεσεως των χειρων του πρεσβυτεριου" -- "imposition of the hands of the priesthood" (1 Timothy 4:14)

Like I said, "πρεσβυτερος" is used intermixed with "ιερευς", but I pointed out several uses where it can only refer to sacramental priesthood.

4,794 posted on 01/07/2013 7:08:51 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
First of all there is no more sacrifice other than the living sacrifice we are to God. Christ’s sacrifice was perfect, complete and for all time.

>>When speaking of ordained priests, St. Paul uses that contentious word again, "επιθεσεως των χειρων του πρεσβυτεριου" -- "imposition of the hands of the priesthood" (1 Timothy 4:14)<<

Let’s first look at the verse.

1 Timothy 4:14 Do not neglect your gift, which was given you through a prophetic message when the body of elders (presbyteriou) laid their hands on you.

Transliteration: presbuterion
Phonetic Spelling: (pres-boo-ter'-ee-on)
Short Definition: an assembly of elders

Then let’s look at the individual words you used trying to claim priest.

επιθεσεως (epithesis)
Short Definition: laying on
Definition: a laying on; an attack, assault.

των (ho)
Short Definition: the

χειρων (cheir)
Short Definition: a hand

τοῦ (tou)
Short Definition: the
Definition: the, the definite article.

πρεσβυτεριου (presbuterion)
Short Definition: an assembly of elders

Still no priest there.

>>Like I said, "πρεσβυτερος" is used intermixed with "ιερευς", but I pointed out several uses where it can only refer to sacramental priesthood<<

“can only refer”? I haven’t seen any of the verses that refer to the elders as priests. It’s the inference of the RCC because of the way they want to structure their church. The ONLY priesthood in the New Testament is that of the believers and Christ.

4,802 posted on 01/07/2013 8:20:03 PM PST by CynicalBear
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