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To: count-your-change; CynicalBear

I came across this great explanation that might help you realize the mistake you’re making about what you’re calling pagan holidays..

“Christ can purify and reclaim anything with its roots in human culture, just as He purifies and reclaims everything with its roots in our human nature. He’s the incarnate Savior. He has assumed (taken up and transformed) our human nature. It’s what He does.”

This should make perfect sense to you two because God made the days(pagans don’t own days) and nature and all these things are under His power to transform.

Don’t expect me to get in a long dragged out debate on this since this perfectly explains the subject.


4,391 posted on 01/04/2013 11:46:22 AM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

“Don’t expect me to get in a long dragged out debate on this since this perfectly explains the subject.”

As you wish but your “great explanation” explains nothing. But it is right up there with Aaron’s “great explanation”.


4,393 posted on 01/04/2013 11:54:50 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: stfassisi; smvoice; RnMomof7; metmom; boatbums; caww; Iscool; presently no screen name; ...
I’ll take God’s word over some speculation by man. God didn’t say that by using pagan practices they were serving other gods. He said not to serve Him the way they served their gods.

Deuteronomy 12:30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise. 31 Thou shalt not do so unto the Lord thy God: for every abomination to the Lord, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.

He also said to observe only those things He commanded to do and not to add or take away from them. So He continues in Dewuteronomy.

Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Can you find from scripture where God instituted any of the “feast days” you celebrate? He did have something to say about them.

Isaiah 1:13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting. 14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them. 15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

He said to destroy all the ways of the heathen or there would be consequences.

Ezekiel 20:7 Then said I unto them, Cast ye away every man the abominations of his eyes, and defile not yourselves with the idols of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. 8 But they rebelled against me, and would not hearken unto me: they did not every man cast away the abominations of their eyes, neither did they forsake the idols of Egypt: then I said, I will pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the midst of the land of Egypt. 9 But I wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted before the heathen, among whom they were, in whose sight I made myself known unto them, in bringing them forth out of the land of Egypt. 10 Wherefore I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt, and brought them into the wilderness. 11 And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them. 12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the Lord that sanctify them. 13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.

And lest you think that’s all Old Testament stuff and not relevant after Christ. Paul was still keeping the old feasts but no where is mentioned of any new.

Acts 18:21 But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if God will. And he sailed from Ephesus.

Jesus kept all of the old feast days commanded by God and taught the apostles to do the same. Then He sent them into the world with this command.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

No the those who celebrate other “feast days” need to show from scripture where Jesus instituted other feast days that are observed today or consider that God’s disdain for them still stands.

4,396 posted on 01/04/2013 12:25:03 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: stfassisi; smvoice; RnMomof7; metmom; boatbums; caww; Iscool; presently no screen name; ...
>> “Christ can purify and reclaim anything with its roots in human culture, just as He purifies and reclaims everything with its roots in our human nature. He’s the incarnate Savior. He has assumed (taken up and transformed) our human nature. It’s what He does.”<<

Not against His own word He can’t.

4,397 posted on 01/04/2013 12:31:33 PM PST by CynicalBear
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