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To: stfassisi; boatbums
No sin can separate us from Him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day.

Romans 8:31-39 31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things? 33 Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies. 34 Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised—who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us.

35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? 36 As it is written, “For your sake we are being killed all the day long; we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.”

37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

There is no sin greater or stronger than God and His love for His children and His ability to forgive them and their sin.

How anyone can justify being saved and committing murder and adultery is beyond me,there is no appropriate context in which to even say such things

Nobody does. Only an unregenerate mind would come to those conclusions.

Luther isn't saying that it's OK to do those things, nor is he advocating that anyone go out and do those things.

Anyone who is interpreting his comments to mean that is not being intellectually honest.

A person who is saved has the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit in them and has the mind of Christ. It is inconceivable that a genuine believer would ever think that way and it's virtually certain that someone who does think that way is not genuinely saved.

The point Luther is making is that God is greater than our sin and even our propensity to commit it.

Do Catholics understand hyperbole or does Luther just push them over the edge that easily?

4,154 posted on 01/03/2013 2:08:24 PM PST by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; boatbums
There is no sin greater or stronger than God and His love for His children and His ability to forgive them and their sin

There is sin that is unforgivable and suggesting that grave sin has no consequences is like walking on the edge of the abyss,dear sister

Why don't you just admit that Luther should not had such a thing and move on ,lest you be accused of condoning grave sin as well

4,163 posted on 01/03/2013 2:57:18 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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