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To: HarleyD
Sorry but the Church has not always understood adoption to be united with the love of Christ.

Wrong! Nothing you posted proves this wrong

Also,Nothing you posted in the writings of a few Church fathers denied adoption is united with the love of God like I said , nor did they say anything about possibly falling from that love.

Sorry, dear brother , but you're grasping at straws.

4,053 posted on 01/02/2013 9:36:14 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi
Sorry, dear brother , but you're grasping at straws.

Not at all. Even the word "adopt" is inconsistent with your explanation that adoption is "united with the love of Christ". It is more than that. Adoption is a legal term of ownership:

I would point to several verses in scripture pertaining to adoption:

It is not only apparent that God adopts us as children, but He is more than willing to discipline us as His children. I thought it would be interesting to check the Greek on the precise meaning of adoption:

And just to not be mistaken in my viewpoint, I refer you to the Council of Trent:

Clearly they used the term adoption as part of the regeneration process. Something far more happens than a simple union. 1) According to the dictionary we legally belong to God. 2) God disciplines those who He legally owns. 3) And according to the Council of Trent, this legal adoption takes place the moment we're regenerated.

Has the Church lost it's understanding of what "adopt" means?

4,090 posted on 01/03/2013 6:30:53 AM PST by HarleyD
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