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To: CynicalBear
Obviously you must believe he is not saved right?

No, he is not saved, but neither am I. We are not saved by faith alone (James 2:17-26). Neither of us are dead yet, so we don't know of that. I know that if I "[do] the will of my Father who is in heaven" (Matthew 7:21; also see Matthew 25:31-46) then both he and I will be saved, and for him, that would necessitate converting to Catholicism, or, perhaps, Orthodox Church, and for both of us, persevering in the Orthodox Catholic faith, for that, too is the will of Christ (John 17:21). The will of the Father is for me and for him to have authentic, mature, informed faith in Christ preserved in the One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church, which teaches "the faith once delivered to the saints" (Jude 1:3).

I would like to stop active participation in this thread, as it circled back to the issue of once-saved-always-saved versus the authentic faith in continuing sanctification preceding salvation, and I have other stuff to do now that my vacation is coming to a close. You can read my earlier posts, the bulk of them to you, on this very thread.

If you have specific questions, preferably about the Catholic Church or the Holy Scripture, I will answer publicly if you alert me to them in Freepmail, or simply if I choose to, but I will not be responding to most posts.

Peace be with you. Thank you for your participation; despite occasional barbs on my part I enjoyed it. I hope you derived a clearer understanding of the teaching of the Church, and of the vapidity of your scriptural prooftexts, that either don't say what you think they say, or else they reflect the Catholic faith without you knowing that.

3,354 posted on 12/30/2012 12:19:22 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

I would like to stop active participation in this thread, as it circled back to the issue of once-saved-always-saved


3,359 posted on 12/30/2012 12:32:19 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: annalex
>>I would like to stop active participation in this thread, as it circled back to the issue of once-saved-always-saved <<

Not unless you bring it back there. My post was showing that your freind, according to the RCC, will not be saved unless he becomes a member of the Catholic Church.

3,362 posted on 12/30/2012 12:35:02 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: annalex

You are very knowledgable, I love that. Very few Catholics are willing to “quarrel” with others and deal with these... Interesting accusations. Don’t get too irritated with this though, Protestants are converting to the Catholic church in large numbers. Converts make the best Catholics because they understand these other perspectives very well. In all fairness I say they don’t understand Catholicism, but I don’t understand the many variations of Protestants either. Your right though, I’m out too. God Bless.


3,367 posted on 12/30/2012 1:19:16 PM PST by mgist
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