Ohhh Mercy..May God open eyes to see the blasphemy
Posted on 12/08/2012 2:24:39 PM PST by NYer
We don't give her such attributes. Only Christ can forgive sin or prevent us from sinning; only through the grace of Christ we may be saved. It is only through Christ that the saints can intercede. It is through Christ that Mary has her glory and queenship.
That Mary was sinless follows from the description "full of grace" the Archangel gave her (Luke 1:28). It is scriptural. Nor is she the only one thus described; Noah as well is described as "just and perfect man" (Genesis 6:9), that is, free from sin.
If you read Romans 3:23 (your likely prooftext for the sinfulness of Mary) in its context it is clear that St. Paul writes in generalities. For example, he also says that "none seeketh God", but that clearly is not true of every one.
Luther and his consort were not free to marry therefore it was fornication and not a proper marriage.
A dialog cannot take place until a mutually accepted definition of terms is achieved. There is a fundamental difference between the Protestant concept of freedom and the Catholic concept of freedom. The Protestant belief is centered on the notion that a free person man do whatever they please. The Catholic belief is centered on a person being free from sin and its enslaving encumberances.
Pax et Bonum.
An appropriate quote for this thread.....
“All true children of God have God for their father and Mary for their mother; anyone who does not have Mary for his mother, does not have God for his father. This is why the reprobate, such as heretics and schismatics, who hate, despise or ignore the Blessed Virgin, do not have God for their father though they arrogantly claim they have, because they do not have Mary for their mother. Indeed if they had her for their mother they would love and honour her as good and true children naturally love and honour the mother who gave them life.”-Saint Louis Marie de Montfort
Once again, we find Catholics taking a very minor point made by Luther, and blowing it out proportion.Oathbreaking - his own, a "minor point"
Sigh. And yet his attacks against the very Church he was ordained in and his schism - major assaults on Christian unity - those so many PROTESTants celebrate and venerate. Sorry, Luther and his schism are evil.
This is interesting, but in actuality Jesus got his humanity from Mary, so all the human cells left behind would have been hers ...
Says who?
1Ti 4:1 ¶ Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
The word Bishop means overseer
But Rome is not the Nt church, it is not the church "of God"
The NT church had no priest because there is no longer a need for sacrifices..The OT priests were a type fulfilled by Christ.. and so God destroyed the priesthood in 70 ad
Scripture please
No, you are giving them too much credit. There is no rational thinking here that I could detect. “We don’t like monasticism, therefore monastic vows do not exist”. It’s a logic of a five year old. No wonder we have gay “marriage” legal in an electorate formed by Protestant values.
Thank you. Besides, there is a misunderstanding of what “worship” is. A Protestant cannot worship God; he thinks that prayer and praise are acts of worship. So then, he reasons, he who prays to a saint worship the saint. So St. Louis could have said, using native to him baseball idiom, “He who does not pray to a saint does not know how to worship God; he hasn’t gone past the first base yet”.
You seriously think that 1 Timothy 4:1-5 says that anyone should be able to marry anyone?
There are bathhouses of poofters all across America who would love you for their pastor.
I explained it to you more than once. The Church has no Hebrew Levitical priests and their sacrifices. We do have our priests, our "presbytery" and the sacrifice of Christ one for all, that we receive at Mass.
Neglect not the grace that is in thee, which was given thee by prophesy, with imposition of the hands of the priesthood. (1 Timothy 4:14)ordain priests in every city, as I also appointed thee (Titus 1:5)
Let it be stated here that it is a recent revelation that cells, even stem cells, from the children she has borne, are not only in the body of the mother, they are in the brain itself!
My own personal theory is that there's something seriously different about Jesus' DNA that allowed him to receive communication from the Beyond to the Here and Now ~ I arrived at that after years of intense study of the circumstances surrounding the Shroud of Turin.
No one is required to believe that ~ thankfully it's no one's doctrine as yet.
Ohhh Mercy..May God open eyes to see the blasphemy
Yep the odd views of a poster who claims that Catholics are idolaters, that those who celebrate Easter and Christmas are pagans and that claims that the idea of church on Sunday is a man made tradition and apparently not either Christian or Biblical. Given that this is the point of view from which you view the world, why should anyone pay attention to your odd, often incomplete and often misread cut-n-pastes?
I know that last point is not shared by the RCC except where the Pope himself shares it! So we won't go into it.
Hope you caught my reference to Cardinal Carvajal ~ back in the early 1500s. He's the reason there was no Protestant movement in Spain ~ because if there had been he'd been the leader.
It's hardly a delusion
Great anology, I liked that.
...most Protestants consider churches with bishops to be simply Catholic churches under another name.Who are "most"? The largest of the schismatics are the Orthodox, then probably the Lutherans and the various Anglican derivatives, iirc. All of them have what they call "Bishops". Who is left of consequence?
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