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To: Natural Law

No believer is unclean as they have been cleansed by the blood of Jesus and have been forgiven of their sins, having been clothed with the righteousness of Christ.

Purgatory can’t work because it’s not suffering which rids one of sin, but shedding of blood.

Without the shedding of blood there is NO forgiveness of sins. - Hebrews 9:22

Jesus learned obedience from His suffering. - Hebrews 5:8

Suffering produces endurance - Romans 5:3

There is not ONE verse that says suffering cleanses us from sin or obtains forgiveness from God for it. Catholics need to read the Bible and see what it has to say about suffering instead of spouting off on something they know nothing about. Our suffering is not pleasing to God and it does not obtain ANYTHING from God for us. It’s not a blackmail tool to twist His arm into giving us what we ask for which is used for.

I’ve had Catholics tell me to offer up my suffering to God as prayer and that He would answer it because of my suffering.

Hogwash.......

Jesus didn’t teach us to pray that way.


170 posted on 12/02/2012 1:45:23 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
"No believer is unclean as they have been cleansed by the blood of Jesus and have been forgiven of their sins, having been clothed with the righteousness of Christ."

The Church does not attempt to explain how we are cleansed or to explain God's timeless omnipresence, only to affirm that the cleansing happens. Regardless of how you try to define or explain that cleansing process or attempt to explain when it happens, it is Purgatory.

Peace be with you.

172 posted on 12/02/2012 2:08:44 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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