Stu, ya gotta understand something here.
What if I announced a new church...Colofornian Community Church? And I claimed that ALL other churches in the WORLD were apostate(?)
Obviously that would constitute a "scorched earth" approach to "ecumenical" religious "relations." I would, thereby, be attempting to spiritually bury ALL other churches into one giant spiritual graveyard.
That's what Joseph Smith did. He declared them ALL AWOL! HE announced as "scripture" that the Lds church was the "only true and living church on the face of the earth." (Lds Doctrine & Covenants 1:30)
That was more than just a shot across the bow. That was open spiritual hostility to ALL Christian churches.
Now let's say that this hypothetical "church" of mine grew to 14 million around the world -- and that about 5-6 of million of them tithed to spread the above messaging into over 100 different languages.
Fact: Mormon "scriptures" bash Christians 24/7 in all kinds of languages every hour of every day.
Stu, I have the Lds Church published Topical Guide of the Bible (1979).
When you look under "Apostasy of the Early Christian Church" -- p. 13 -- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints lists 1 Nephi 13:26 of the Book of Mormon as applicable to our history: ...thou seest the formation of a great and abominable church, which is most abominable above all other churches; for behold, they have taken away from the gospel of the Lamb many parts which are plain and most precious; and also many covenants of the Lord have they taken away.
So. They accuse our spiritual forefathers of being...
..."a great and abominable church"
...It's supposedly "most abominable above all other churches"
...And that we removed most of the Gospel of Jesus Christ;
...and finally, removed covenants as well.
ALL: The lesson that too many Mormons want you to know is that it's "A-OK" for these kinds of LDS accusations about Christians to be plastered around the globe by 55,000 missionaries and 24/7 Lds.org and Lds books & curricula...but, if a few FREEPERS dare to make a perceived overly negative comment about Mormons, the thin skin is bared and it's time for the Mormon toys to go home.
BTW...that same 1979 Topical Guide of the Bible published by the Mormon Church...check out p. 101 under the entry of "Devil, Church of"...When we see Book of Mormon verses listed like 1 Nephi 13:6, 32 and 14:9-10...it leaves absolutely no doubt that "true believing Mormons" -- including some FREEPERS -- deem us Christians as part of the "Church of the devil."
Sometimes the ill informed grief is difficult to stomach, yet you continue.
We know that several people on FR have been released and now know Christ because of your work.
It is for the Kingdom, we work.
Have a wonderful Christmas season with kith and kin.
BTW...that same 1979 Topical Guide of the Bible published by the Mormon Church...check out p. 101 under the entry of "Devil, Church of"...When we see Book of Mormon verses listed like 1 Nephi 13:6, 32 and 14:9-10...it leaves absolutely no doubt that "true believing Mormons" -- including some FREEPERS -- deem us Christians as part of the "Church of the devil."
Jim Robinson, 11/30/2012--this thread, post 475. "I have zero faith in Joseph Smith or his so-called Mormon religion and do not want it taught on FR as gospel."
In light of the above statement by Jim, There have been as usual, numerous posts on this thread by mormons lying about Biblical passages and Biblical characters in an attempt to claim that mormonism is equal to historical Biblical fact. They are simply lies, and I resent the continual claim of "we are Christians" when at the same time these posters are defaming true Prophets and the Apostles of the true Jesus Christ.
If there are certain forbidden sources on FR, such as Jack Chick, it seems that there should/must be attention paid to the anti-Christian defamation of the Holy Bible (which needs NO "correct translation") and defamation of early Christian leaders.
We are seeing that defenders of mormonism cannot deny factual information about the sect and are employing the tactic of lying about AND defaming Christianity.
The founding of mormonism was based on defaming Christianity. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the only true church (Doctrine and Covenants [D&C] 1:30); all other churches (Presbyterians, Baptists, and Methodists are specifically mentioned in Joseph Smith, History 1:9, Pearl of Great Price) are "wrong," "all their creeds were an abomination," and "those professors were all corrupt" (Joseph Smith, History 1:19). Continuing to defame Christianity shouldn't be allowed on FR.
So? Spiritual hostility is something I don’t understand or care about.
Take your analogy one further, say you claim your Church is a "Christian Church", you have the true Jesus Christ and he is really an Asparagus from the planet Krylon, and that this knowledge was covered up from the Christian faith when it went apostate very early on and the Christ they present is not the true Christian Savior and their doctrines are all incorrect.
There you have the LDS.
Be any religion you want, but be your own. Be Jewish be Buddhist or nothing, whatever, but if you steal the very Savior from another faith and twist its core doctrines into a bloody mess and then have the audacity to say the ones you stole from are wrong it is rather stupid for anyone to think there would be no response.
Sounds pretty standard so far...
C “Obviously that would constitute a “scorched earth” approach to “ecumenical” religious “relations.” I would, thereby, be attempting to spiritually bury ALL other churches into one giant spiritual graveyard.”
Then over time you mollify your once condemned apostates and you end up with the Ecumenical conferences as we have them today...
As for the apostasy, I have stated before that in my humble opinion, the Adoption of the Trinity as the definition of God in AD 325 is the single most significant event of apostasy that I can point to happening at a specific time. Which does not make me a non Christian...
So, was it A-OK for protestants to point out the things they thought were wrong with the Catholic Church?
The Hypocrisy of Protestants who now want to treat us just like the Catholics did them is well stunning to say the least.
I do find it funny that Catholics in my experience are never anti’s... I guess they got it out of their system with the Protestants.
Delph