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To: Godzilla
D “said, stop trying to (mis)interpret me for others. Jesus was Fully God and Fully man,”
G “A ‘god’ DU, not THE God. very distinctive point. Or have you become a trinitarian? Otherwise, you are mistating mormon teaching -”

Not misstating at all and not Trinitarian.

I find it interesting that I keep saying the same thing, have been for years, and you keep misunderstanding the meaning in different ways.

The Godhead is (I'll try again) God the Father, Jesus Christ, and The Holy Spirit (or spirit of God, Holy Ghost, etc.) are three personages who individually are God, collectively are God for they are one. see http://www.freerepublic.com/~delphiuser/#TheOnenessofGod

G “Smith specifically makes it plural - thus Jesus would be “a” god not THE God, you are misrepresenting mormon doctrine on the subject.”

Let's face it, when discussing God, mere mortal minds cannot easily comprehend even the smallest aspect. Trinitarians got around the oneness of God by claiming he was one substance, but three manifestations at the same time (which breaks the laws of physics), Modalists believe that God shifts from one “mode” (Jesus mode) to God the Father (Jehovah mode?) to Spirit mode... which has some problems with of Jesus standing on(at) God the Father's right hand, etc.

A being with one mind, but three physical manifestations that are separate in substances is polytheism to you? LOL!

It's just not that simple, and we are not polytheists.

G “”Have you truly repented DU?”
D “Not that it's any of your business, yes, I believe I have.”
G “What? You don't know if you have truly repented?”
Do you? Have you ever sinned since then? Or do you believe that a baptized infant who grows up to be a mass murderer is saved in complete unjustness?
G DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS 58:43: “By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins—behold, he will confess them and forsake them.”
G “I mean you are either living a completely sin free life or you havn’t repented DU. So have you truly repented?”
Well, you see, I keep sinning, and repenting, it's cyclical, and you seem to be casting yourself as a “Barracks room lawyer” I don't think you'll be there when I am being judged, so I'll stick with Jesus as my advocate, but thanks for the offer.

Delph

225 posted on 11/29/2012 2:04:50 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
The Godhead is (I'll try again) God the Father, Jesus Christ, and The Holy Spirit (or spirit of God, Holy Ghost, etc.) are three personages who individually are God, collectively are God for they are one

Sorry DU, still not representing mormon doctrine correctly. Smith taught THREE 'gods' not a single 'god' as you assert. Now DU, what is the Greek word we derive "godhead" from. Also, Greek for "God" is singular, not plural DU.

but three manifestations at the same time (which breaks the laws of physics),

Since when is God confined by the laws of physics

A being with one mind, but three physical manifestations that are separate in substances is polytheism to you? LOL!

When your religious doctrine considers them to be separate 'gods' - then by definition you are polytheism.

Well, you see, I keep sinning, and repenting, it's cyclical, and you seem to be casting yourself as a “Barracks room lawyer” I don't think you'll be there when I am being judged, so I'll stick with Jesus as my advocate, but thanks for the offer.

Then by the clear statment of your doctrine you haven't repented. So it is not correct to say you have repented of your sins since you continue sinning (DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS 58:43)

So, from your doctine, ALL your past sins return when you sin again ( DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS 82:7). Well, you better hope that you've repent just before you die - else you will be found with sin again.

But what would your advocate say?

He can't save you in your sin (ALMA 11:37) DU.

272 posted on 11/29/2012 2:49:34 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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