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[Elsie]

Some believe that it should be approached with ridicule.

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Acts 17:18-19
 18.  A group of Epicurean and Stoic philosophers began to dispute with him. Some of them asked, "What is this babbler trying to say?" Others remarked, "He seems to be advocating foreign gods." They said this because Paul was preaching the good news about Jesus and the resurrection.
 19.  Then they took him and brought him to a meeting of the Areopagus, where they said to him, "May we know what this new teaching is that you are presenting?

 

Acts 18:11
    So Paul stayed for a year and a half, teaching them the word of God.

 

 

 

 

 

Romans 15:4
 For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

 

 

Romans 16:17
   I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

 

 

1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.

 

 

1 Corinthians 11:2
 2.  I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.

 

 

Ephesians 4:14-15
 14.  Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
 15.  Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.

 

 

2 Thessalonians 2:15
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.

 

 

2 Thessalonians 3:6
  In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching  you received from us.

 

 

1 Timothy 1:3-4
 3.  As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
 4.  nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.

 

 

1 Timothy 1:7
  They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.

 

 

1 Timothy 2:7
   And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:1-2
 1.  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
 2.  Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:6
   If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:11
  Command and teach these things.

 

 

1 Timothy 6:3-5
 3.  If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
 4.  he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 
 5.  and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

 

 

2 Timothy 1:13
  What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.

 

 

 2 Timothy 2:15-17
 15.  Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
 16.  Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
 17.  Their teaching will spread like gangrene.

 

 

2 Timothy 3:16-17
 16.  All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 17.  so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

 

 

 2 Timothy 4:3-4
  3.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
  4.  They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

 

 

Titus 1:11
   They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.

 

 

Titus 2:1
  You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.

 

 

Titus 2:15
  These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.

 

 

 Hebrews 13:9
 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.

 

 

 2 Peter 2:1-3
 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

 

 

2 John 1:10
  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.

[DelphiUser]

“Jesus of the bible is not adequate to forgive the sin of murder.”
Wanna ask David about that?

Murder is not an easy thing to repent of, and often if not always does not complete in this life. Luke wrote that David was still in hell and had not yet ascended to heaven. See http://www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/acts/2.26-38?lang=eng#26

If your point was that “once saved, always saved”, you need to work on your communication skills.

Unrepentant murders are not saved (I feel safe saying that)

Delph

[Elsie]

1/3

[Elsie]

Prove the allegation from official sources as to what is "Mormon doctrine", so that it may be more clearly determined what is grasped, and what is not.

The PD defense.

Paragon Defender would post this big list of LDS approved links and then tell everyone who wanted an answer to look it up for themselves.

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Where can we find an 'OFFICIAL MORMON' teaching website??

Official sites are sites supported by LDS officials unless said official sites are considered unofficial by said officials.

 

At that point such sites are unofficial unless officially referenced for official purposes by officials who can do so officially.

 

This should not be misconstrued as an indication that official sites can be unofficially recognized as official nor should it be implied that unofficial sites cannot contain official information, but are not officially allowed to be offical despite their official contents due the their unofficialness.

 

Official sites will be official and recognized as official by officials of the LDS unless there is an official reason to mark them as unofficial either temporally or permanently, which would make the official content officially unofficial.

 

This is also not to imply that recognized sites, often used on FR by haters and bigots cannot contain official information, it just means that content, despite its official status, is no longer official and should be consider unofficial despite the same information being official on an official site elsewhere.

 

Even then the officialness my be amended due to the use of the unofficial information which may determine the officialness of anything be it official or unofficial depending on how and where it is used officially or unofficially.

I hope this clear things up for the lurkers out there.

The haters tend to make things complicated and confusing when it is all really quite crystal clear.

--Ejonesie22

[DelphiUser]

LC, gotta go, I Got kids...

It's been too long and you make a good foil.

We should have a picnic, I'll bring the jello (green of course) and you bring the beer (since I won't be drinking any, you wouldn't like my choice;)

God Bless (Your definition, just to make you happy)

Delph

[svcw]

When you state what you in this post, how do your reconcile that with your prophet when he says: Tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated in his book, doctrines of Salvation, that there is "No salvation without accepting Joseph Smith.

[Elsie]

If you are not baptized into the church of God by the authority of God, then your soul is in mortal jeopardy

You are DAMENED, DU!!!

Brigham SAYS so!

[Elsie]

You have failed to mention the hounding you’ll get.

[Elsie]

Hey, do you have one of these about Stephen being stoned?

I have one about YOU being damned; would THAT do for a start?

[DelphiUser]

oops, forgot the link to a fun vid for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mzm0LovPH4

Delph

[Elsie]

Logic, not your strong suit

I'm sure you have some evidence to actually illustrated your charge?

I'll wait. (Psst... your strawman needs a LOT more straw...)

[Elsie]

Why this is so controversial with you, I have no clue.

O...

K...

[Elsie]

I am a Mormon and I do not appreciate your constant negative harping.

You are DAMNED, girrl!!

Don't you AGREE with Living Prophet® (but now dead) #2?

[Elsie]

"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

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Does that really SCARE you, Sandy?

[Elsie]

Elsie, have a heart!

Sandy; have a nice time in HELL!!

But; your 'prophet' may have been wrong.

You'll see some day...

[Elsie]

Wanna ask David about that?

Nope; ask your own prophet about it.

HE made the claim; and you believe it; don't you?

[Elsie]

Unrepentant murders are not saved (I feel safe saying that)

The sun will PROBABLY come up tomorrow.

[Elsie]

I’ve 4 hungry ones myself: and 2 chickens and 2 ducks and 11 +/- cats...

[Colofornian]

I'll be right over, because we are.

Delf...if Lds missionaries were Christian, they would recognize and honor Christian homes as already Christian, and not proselytize them.

Instead, what we see is traversing land & sea to make these families twice the son of Mormon.

[Springfield Reformer]

Thank you. I needed that.