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To: reaganaut

There is no paid clergy in the LDS Church. We are all volunteers. There is no passing of the plate on Sundays. We tithe, yes, but that’s a private matter and none of your business.

You can try all you want to tear down my Testimony of the Savior and His Love but you are wrong and wasting your time. I love Jesus and He loves me.

You are right about one thing. Your Jesus is not my Jesus. My Jesus accepts me and loves me; He does not condemn me. He came to save me from my sins. Your Jesus condemns me and rejects me. How sad for you that you actually believe you are qualified to judge me regarding my Testimony of the Savior.

Your ill conceived opinion of the LDS faith is leading you astray. I kind of get it, though, as I used to be an anti Mormon, too - out of ignorance and being deceived by preachers and other so-called Christians.


943 posted on 11/15/2012 4:11:55 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy; reaganaut
He came to save me from my sins.

What does your doctrine say SD?

ALMA 11:37: “And I say unto you again that he cannot save them in their sins; for I cannot deny his word, and he hath said that no unclean thing can inherit the kingdom of heaven; therefore, how can ye be saved, except ye inherit the kingdom of heaven? Therefore, ye cannot be saved in your sins.”

You've already told us you haven't repented of all your sins SD. How then can this mormon Jesus save you. since this mormon jesus cannot promise forgiveness - why should I follow him? Again, before you blankety-blank me - discuss your doctrine problem with your bishop.

944 posted on 11/15/2012 4:17:01 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Saundra Duffy

There is no paid clergy in the LDS Church. We are all volunteers.

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Sandy, you need to do your research. While there is NO LONGER a paid clergy in the LDS - there was up until the mid 20th century. Even patriarchs got paid PER patriarchal blessing.

Today, LDS leaders get money by being placed on multiple board of directors for LDS owned business, up to a million dollars PER YEAR - even if they know nothing about the business for a SINGLE MEETING and stay on the board of directors until they die and get paid even if they cannot make the meetings (ET Benson is great case of this).

Additionally, CES instructors, MTC instructors, etc are ALL PAID.

Add to that, the LDS leaders have a built in market for their books. They publish a book of old talks, sell it for $30 dollars and know they will sell easily 500,000 copies. All money for them.

I can document all of this. So, don’t play the holier than thou card because your church has slave labor at the lower levels.


951 posted on 11/16/2012 12:24:58 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Saundra Duffy

You can try all you want to tear down my Testimony of the Savior and His Love but you are wrong and wasting your time.

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No, I want you to come to the REAL Biblical Jesus, not the false one of Mormonism and I want to tear down your ‘testimony’ of the Mormon CHURCH - not Jesus - a ‘testimony’ built on feelings regardless of the facts.

Mormons like you remind me of Esau who sold his birthright for a pot of stew.


952 posted on 11/16/2012 12:26:52 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Your Jesus condemns me and rejects me. How sad for you that you actually believe you are qualified to judge me regarding my Testimony of the Savior.

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I judge you based upon your Church’s teachings. Christ judged false teachers and legalists as well.


953 posted on 11/16/2012 12:27:55 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Your ill conceived opinion of the LDS faith is leading you astray.

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ROFL! My opinions are based on fact, and experience. Don’t forget I used to be just like you, a total TBM. They are not ‘ill concieved’ at all. I can back up everything I claim about Mormon doctrine.

BTW, you didn’t address any of my comments. Just the same old song and dance.

Mormonism led me astray. God rescued me from that demonic cult and I pray He will rescue you.


954 posted on 11/16/2012 12:30:19 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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