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To: Godzilla
See Heaven and Hell. There is no Satan individual but there is indeed a hell. Spirits choose it based on their loves - they choose it themselves.

Hell is under the Lord's kingdom - individuals there pervert His Divine Love and Wisdom into evil and falsity, as people do here. I believe hell to be eternal.

795 posted on 11/13/2012 9:33:40 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: DaveMSmith

but the ‘spirits’ are suppose to come and help one’s transition.

However, it is unscriptural - not surprising given swedenborg’s occultic practices and actions. Accordingly, his doctrines follow those of demons.


811 posted on 11/13/2012 10:16:09 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: DaveMSmith
There is no Satan individual but there is indeed a hell.

So, are you saying Jesus lied?

Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’ ” (Matthew 4:10)

If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? (Matthew 12:26)

Some people are like seed along the path, where the word is sown. As soon as they hear it, Satan comes and takes away the word that was sown in them. (Mark 4:15)

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. (Luke 4:8)

He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. (Luke 10:18)

If Satan is divided against himself, how can his kingdom stand? I say this because you claim that I drive out demons by Beelzebul. (Luke 11:18)

Then should not this woman, a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan has kept bound for eighteen long years, be set free on the Sabbath day from what bound her?” (Luke 13:16)

“Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat. (Luke 22:13)

Or, how about the book of Revelation? Does the Apostle John also lie?

I know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. (Revelation 2:9)

I know where you live—where Satan has his throne. Yet you remain true to my name. You did not renounce your faith in me, not even in the days of Antipas, my faithful witness, who was put to death in your city—where Satan lives. (Rev. 2:13)

Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets, ‘I will not impose any other burden on you, (Rev. 2:24)

I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. (Rev. 3:9)

The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him. (Rev. 12:9)

He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. (Rev. 20:2)

When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever. (Revelation 20:7-10)

That's not even counting the rest of Holy Scripture that thoroughly demolishes the false construct that a being called Satan does not exist. I think he is actually delighted when people think he isn't real. That way he can get away with so much more. Don't be deceived, he is like a roaring lion walking about seeking to devour you!

853 posted on 11/13/2012 8:14:21 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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