[DaveMSmith]

That’s fair on amnesty - we need a real debate. I like Rush’s idea - build the fence, citizenship for all 11 mil BUT they cannot vote for 25 years.

[SoConPubbie]

That’s fair on amnesty - we need a real debate. I like Rush’s idea - build the fence, citizenship for all 11 mil BUT they cannot vote for 25 years.

Problem is, that 11 million number is a joke.

That number has been holding at that level for more than 5 years, and it was joke then, and the mean time, our border has been wide open.

I live in Santa Ana, CA, the belly of the beast where Illegal Immigration is concerned.

I can tell you from personal experience, just by the illegals in Orange County, those numbers are off by at least 3 times that amount.