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To: koinonia
Contraception is contrary to God's law: Why the Hahn's became Roman Catholic

U-2012> Just what are the Verses ?

Now a basic response: First, one can look at Onan (Gen 38:1-10). When his brother was killed and Tamar was left a widow, Judah told him to marry her and to produce offspring. He practiced the form of contraception which today we call "withdrawal": Onan "went in to his brother's wife, spilled his seed upon the ground, lest children should be born in his brother's name. And therefore the Lord slew him, because he did a detestable thing" (Gen 38:9-10).

Have you ever read the entire chapter under
the illumination of the Ru'ach HaKodesh ?

Clearly Scott Hahn is ignorant of the WORD of YHvH.

Genesis 38 is not about Contraception,
but obedience to the WORD of YHvH.

What is being discussed in all of chapter 38 ?

Chapter 38 seems to be about "can the will of man
interfere with the Patrilineal bloodline of Yah'shua".

Judah is the tribe of the first-born of Israel by assignment.

Judah has three sons.

The first(Er) displeases YHvH and is struck dead.

Onan(2nd) through the sin of PRIDE refuses to offer
his seed to Er for progeny for Judah
(levitical marriage)
He directly refuses to obey YHvH's Commandments ).

Judah then told Tamar to wait for Shelah grew up.

Judah feared the third son would also be struck dead.
Judah failed to obey YHvH and give Shelah to Tamar for an heir.

Tamar removed her widow's garments dressed herself
as a harlot to obey YHvH and produce an heir for Judah.

Wife of YHVH and the Bride of Messiah -

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
69 posted on 10/07/2012 5:01:17 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Scott Hahn is not posting; so you can't really accuse him of ignorance of Scripture because of my posts :-)

At any rate, Gen 38:10 says, "And therefore the Lord slew him, because he did a detestable thing." It does not say that he was slain for the sin of pride or disobedience, but because the act he performed (spilling the seed) was detestable.

I agree with you that what motivated him to do this was prideful disobedience, but he was killed by God for what he did.

70 posted on 10/08/2012 11:09:38 AM PDT by koinonia (Virgil Goode for President - I'm not getting paid to promote him :-))
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