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To: Antoninus
Again, I think you are at least partially right.

But part of it is that no matter what, there are Catholics on this board who will immediately look to deflect the blame and criticism by pointing out either abuse in public schools, or by claiming Protestant's have a higher level of sexual assault by pastors.

It is a common reaction to a failing in something you love, but in the end it is harmful to everyone.

For the school teachers, the abuse may not have the same percentage of abusers as the Catholic church in the bad old days, but the over numbers are much greater (there are many times more public, and even private, school teachers than priests). School districts play toss the potato with known problem teachers, in order to hide it. IF the scandal gets the attention it deserves, it will be more expensive than anything seen so far. But because it is a government body, the level of disclosure is much less, and the corruption is widely spread.

Case in point. A local school in western Illinois fired and charged a teacher for having sexual contact with a cheer leader. She was looking for better grades, and he told her how to get them (won't get cruder beyond that).

It was reported in the local news, but didn't spread much beyond that. Why? It is so COMMON it isn't worth commenting on. The girl in the situation later started sleeping with the prosecuting attorney in the case. The attorney got disbarred (for taking her and another under aged girl on a booze/bar hopping trip to Springfield), but no charges where filed. Why? This is Illinois, and they would have to lock up most of the state and local officials.

73 posted on 09/08/2012 2:33:16 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
Dear redgolum,

“But part of it is that no matter what, there are Catholics on this board who will immediately look to deflect the blame and criticism by pointing out either abuse in public schools, or by claiming Protestant's have a higher level of sexual assault by pastors.

“It is a common reaction to a failing in something you love, but in the end it is harmful to everyone.”

No, I don't think that's mainly the thing to which we're reacting.

There are people, filthy anti-Catholic bigots of the worst demonic sort who actually have the audacity to label themselves "Christians" (their father IS the Father of Lies, after all). They have often, especially in the past, tried to tie the priest abuse scandal to our theology and discipline. They will blame it on celibacy, and then they will tie it deeper to our “flawed,” “unbiblical” theology.

So, we point out that not only do these problems exist in other systems and organizations NOT RUN BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OR ACCORDING TO CATHOLIC TEACHING OR DISCIPLINE (and yes, I'm yelling that part), but that in some cases, the other organizations and systems actually have worse abuse problems, and at least at this point, nearly-infinitely worse problems of cover-ups.

That's why you will often see Catholics post a reply to a teacher-abuse or Protestant-abuse thread along the lines of, “If only they could marry.”

Do we have a problem? Yup. Was the problem even worse than it is now? Oh, yeah. Have we been working on it? You better believe it. Is it all fixed? No, and as long as we're all subject to the effects of the Fall, it won't be.

But we're not very interested in the lame-brain, idiotic, satanic musings of dark-hearted, spiritually-lost anti-Catholic bigots about the errors of our theology and discipline and that it is these errors that cause the priests to abuse children.

And our reaction is to remind others that these sorts of problems happen elsewhere, all without the benefit of Catholic belief or teaching or discipline or celibacy or anything!


sitetest

75 posted on 09/08/2012 3:21:53 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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