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The US Catholic bishops' public face over sexual abuse matters has said the hierarchy's credibility on fixing the problem is "shredded" and that the situation is comparable to the Reformation, when "the episcopacy, the regular clergy, even the papacy were discredited"....Bishop Daniel Conlon of Illinois, last month told a conference of staffers who oversee child safety programs in American dioceses that he had always assumed that consistently implementing the bishops' policies on child protection, "coupled with some decent publicity, would turn public opinion around." "I now know this was an illusion," Conlon, chairman of the bishops' Committee for the Protection of Children and Young People, said....

....Conlon said the conviction of a high-ranking church official in Philadelphia for covering up clergy abuse and the upcoming trial of a bishop in Missouri on charges of failing to report a priest on suspicions of child abuse have contributed to a widespread impression that the bishops "have failed to keep their commitments."

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1 posted on 09/07/2012 7:31:08 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy
And in other news, the sun came up this morning.

These bishops just don't get it. This one in Arizona waited *5* months to report a priest looking at child pornography. And he has given one of the most half assed apologies I've ever read. The judge has given him two years probation. The maximum sentence would've been a year in jail - if I were judge, I'd have given it to him.

Apparently, we need to make examples of these people so that the rest of them will fall into line. I'm sorry these priests and bishops need our corrupt civil society to teach them basic decency.

2 posted on 09/07/2012 7:44:02 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: Alex Murphy

public schools have abuse at 100 times the church rate.
in the past 2 decades, the church rate, has been reduced to almost zero.
...public schools, also cover it up, at 100 times the church rate.
...once again, the liberal media, ignores the alligator, to swat mosquitos.
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the liberal media also ignores, that the church scandal,
is a HOMOSEXUAL problem.
Catholic churches have had girls, for altar servers, since 1985 ! ... has there been a SINGLE case, of a Priest abusing a girl? ...this is a gay issue.
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just as more males are raped in the military, than females!
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and who is doing all of it? the less than 2% of gays.
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and the same media, that ignores all of that,
condemns the boyscouts, for realizing the risk,
and NOT letting homosexuals be with young boys.
(as i admit, the Church should have done also.)


3 posted on 09/07/2012 7:44:16 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Alex Murphy
Bishop Daniel Conlon of Illinois [said] he had always assumed that consistently implementing the bishops' policies on child protection, "coupled with some decent publicity, would turn public opinion around."

Bishop Conlon now realizes that fair reporting and 'decent publicity' was an "illusion", wishful thinking and naive.

Conlon said the conviction of a high-ranking church official in Philadelphia for covering up clergy abuse and the upcoming trial of a bishop in Missouri on charges of failing to report a priest on suspicions of child abuse have contributed to a widespread impression that the bishops "have failed to keep their commitments."

"The bishop disputed that view ..."

4 posted on 09/07/2012 7:47:10 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Alex Murphy

certainly any large institution, has bad apples.
and certainly, the coverup, is unforgivable.
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but overlooking much higher rates, and much great crimes and coverups... is just as bad as one priest not reporting another for looking at photos!
it should be zero tolerance everywhere! instead of only looking in one place, that has the LOWEST rate of abuse!!!
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ever seen a story about child abuse by a Muslim Imam?
...i’ll wager, they cover up even more than the schools.
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not to mention, have wife beating, etc. as part of their religion!
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yet the liberal media LOVES Islam, and attacks Christians, especially Catholics. ...fitting Bible prophecy.


13 posted on 09/07/2012 8:02:58 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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If those darn children would just stop raping those poor priests!

New York Friar Says Kids Are Often To Blame For Seducing Adults
http://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-friar-says-the-kids-are-often-to-blame-for-seducing-adults-2012-8
“Suppose you have a man having a nervous breakdown, and a youngster comes after him,” Father Benedict Groeschel told the National Catholic Register, according to the New York Daily News. “A lot of the cases, the youngster — 14, 16, 18 — is the seducer.”


14 posted on 09/07/2012 8:03:02 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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there were stupid people in the church then....there are stupid people in the church now....neither changes the church.


52 posted on 09/07/2012 8:43:46 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: Alex Murphy; Natural Law; A.A. Cunningham; Sherman Logan; koinonia; Antoninus; redgolum; RobbyS; ...

The church will become small and will have to start afresh more or less from the beginning.

She will no longer be able to inhabit many of the edifices she built in prosperity. As the number of her adherents diminishes . . . she will lose many of her social privileges. . . As a small society, [the Church] will make much bigger demands on the initiative of her individual members....

It will be hard-going for the Church, for the process of crystallization and clarification will cost her much valuable energy. It will make her poor and cause her to become the Church of the meek . . . The process will be long and wearisome as was the road from the false progressivism on the eve of the French Revolution — when a bishop might be thought smart if he made fun of dogmas and even insinuated that the existence of God was by no means certain . . . But when the trial of this sifting is past, a great power will flow from a more spiritualized and simplified Church. Men in a totally planned world will find themselves unspeakably lonely. If they have completely lost sight of God, they will feel the whole horror of their poverty. Then they will discover the little flock of believers as something wholly new. They will discover it as a hope that is meant for them, an answer for which they have always been searching in secret.

And so it seems certain to me that the Church is facing very hard times. The real crisis has scarcely begun. We will have to count on terrific upheavals. But I am equally certain about what will remain at the end: not the Church of the political cult, which is dead already, but the Church of faith. She may well no longer be the dominant social power to the extent that she was until recently; but she will enjoy a fresh blossoming and be seen as man's home, where he will find life and hope beyond death.

Joseph Ratzinger, Faith and the Future (1969)


Just something to think about...in light of Bishop Conlon's comments.

79 posted on 09/09/2012 8:33:06 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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