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To: Just mythoughts

Perhaps ‘freewill’ is really just a belief? After all, even though what is believed to be ‘freewill’ is exercised continuesly, how would anyone prove that that exercise of ‘freewill’ wasn’t just part of God’s plan or destiny, and had to happen that way?


38 posted on 08/15/2012 7:55:51 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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God knows the minute of each persons death, but He doesn’t know who will find Him? Isn’t God all-knowing?

Pure perfect love is what the Heavenly Father requires. Pure perfect love cannot be ordered, bought, sold, guilt, just look at liberals. Those that stood against the devil when he decided he was god and rebelled are the chosen/elect that Paul describes in Ephesians 1:4. They have already demonstrated that pure perfect love of the Heavenly Father. Yet they have to still come through this flesh journey because they have duties to fulfill. How many stood against the devil, before the foundation of this flesh age, I have no clue, nor do I worry about it.

There is only one unforgivable sin and only those of the very elect can commit that sin. AND until that appointed time arrives I do not believe any can claim they are of the very elect. No one knows with certainty if their flesh will be alive when that appointed time comes.

Some are given the 'spirit of slumber' Romans 11 whole chapter explains much that was already foretold by the holy prophets... those holy prophets would be the elect, that had already demonstrated their perfect love, and it was foreknown they could be counted upon to follow instructions.

People with 'freewill' unless they personally seek the Heavenly Father's attention are not going to get a visit like Paul did on his way to Damascus... That is not to say IF their ways interfere with THE Plan they won't be moved/pushed out of the WAY.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with God, and the WORD was God.... The Heavenly Father always gave a 'warning' of what to expect and even still the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants on this earth are ignorant. BUT they are the children of God and only He knows their heart/mind. God is the judge, and He judges based upon the whole picture not what some flesh supreme being sets as precedence.

Perhaps ‘freewill’ is really just a belief? After all, even though what is believed to be ‘freewill’ is exercised continuesly, how would anyone prove that that exercise of ‘freewill’ wasn’t just part of God’s plan or destiny, and had to happen that way?

People believe many things, but if it is not of God or from God it is basically a vanity. We have the instruction manual and sometimes it cuts us all right to the bone. Some of Paul's writings leave me lower than low knowing that of myself and by myself I am/have been a miserable failure.... These flesh bodies have always given the soul a big hurdle to overcome. I take it day by day, knowing when that last soul left in heaven is conceived this flesh age is about to wrap up and then the real teaching of the WORD will begin.

58 posted on 08/15/2012 11:30:40 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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