re: “Hi. Nope. Listen to the class or read a summary: Any would-be prophet or miracle worker (even one who rises from the dead...and by the way, all non-Jews, note well-— ALMOST ALL of the rabbis of the Mishnaic and Talmudic era (1st-7th centuries) could raise the dead”
Ok, so if Jesus’s miracles and raising the dead, and, that he himself being raised from the dead is no big deal - even in the first century because every rabbi worth his salt could do so, then why crucify him? Why all the hoopla against him by the Sanhedrin then? Why were so many following him among the populace if what Jesus did was no big deal and an everyday occurance among all the rabbis of that time?
He claimed to be Messiah and equal with God - wasn’t it for blasphemy that the Sanhedrin convicted him to death? It would be blasphemy if Jesus was a fraud, but, if Jesus was who he claimed to be. . .?
Just to also be clear, I have no animosity either toward the Jewish people. I am appalled and heart-broken at the atrocities done in Jesus’s name against the Jewish people over the centuries. I totally support Israel’s right to exist and to defend themselves with whatever means they feel necessary.
As to the Law and the writings of the Prophets, I have the utmost respect and believe, as a Christian, that all of G-d’s Word is still in effect. I do not believe that it is possible to attain righteousness toward salvation (remove the guilt of our sin) by following the Law, because we all sin, we all fall at some point to measure up to G-d’s completely holy and righteous standard.
As to your disagreement with me as to why the Jewish people as whole reject Christianity, I must respond back that my remarks came from Jewish people (my wife’s father was Jewish and many of her relatives are, of course, Jewish) I have spoken with in the past.
I’ve never heard any of them say that their problem with Jesus as Messiah was because he was just “no big deal” in regard to the miracles. Usually they just denied that the New Testament had any historical validity and that whatever it said about Jesus doing miracles was just made-up. Then, in addition to that came the persecutions from “Christians”. That was why I said what I said.
Rusty, “L’chaim” (take a drink! thanks for the support)
You have a lot of “Why’s.” In response to yours or another post I lay the challenge to study the basis of Judaism before inferring what Jews should do/believe. (Another link: http://www.noahide.org/)
The stories about JC’s persecution from the sanhedrin, etc are in your books, not Jews’, so I can’t help you.
There is a lot of misinformed information from modern Jews, a lot of it emotionally vice factually-based. (your father in law’s inputs)
“I’ve never heard any of them say that their problem with Jesus as Messiah was because he was just “no big deal” in regard to the miracles. Usually they just denied that the New Testament had any historical validity and that whatever it said about Jesus doing miracles was just made-up. Then, in addition to that came the persecutions from “Christians”. “
Cool what we learn on these forums, ey? Yup, we reject for altogether different and fascinating reasons :) But not just “no big deal” rather (listen to the class I posted) a big deal that was foretold and rejected entirely 1300 years before he came along.
Phew....long day.