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"וְקָרָאת שְׁמֹו עִמָּנוּ אֵֽל׃ And SHE WILL CALL his name Immanuel. Didnt happen. It is ridiculous to assert "G-d is with us" somehow masks the failure of Mary to call him Immanuel. Fail." --------------------------------------------------------------- The real fail is that you haven't even checked to see how Isaiah uses the phrase. For example: Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace. But, just a few chapters ago, it was to be called Immanuel. Here are further examples to confirm the pattern: Isa 61:6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves. Isa 62:4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married. It is not so much that they are named that, but that they ARE that. It refers to both a title and their true nature that men would call them so many different things. The Gospel of Matthew specifically quotes the Immanuel prophecy, even as he details the virgin birth and Christ's name. The ancients understood Isaiah better than you. Well, that's not difficult though.