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You say to jessduntno: “My question was: do we want a man as president who worships a false god?
Your question to me does not answer my question.
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The problem here is, perhaps, that you presuppose that you are the ultimate arbitor of who believes in what and whose God ia a flse “God.”

Is it possible tha you are not as omnipitant as you believe? You state that Mormons believe in a ‘false God’ and presume that no one should question your statement. Doesn that strike you as a bit presumptuos? (Rhetoric - of course you couldn’t be wrong. You state it as fact, know a your belief.)

Myself, I think most Freepers have minds capable of deciding for themselves and going to the source of the matter - and makeing their own judgments.

there’s certainly enough on to research. They aren’t secret about thier beliefs, like cults are. Lot’s of stuff on YouTube, their own web site with pages and pages and pages - their own TV channel. Maybe even listen to the leaders of the church as they speak at the quarterly conferences in SLC. That should be a pretty good measure of what they are about.

Here’s an example - this speaker speaking in the tabanacle full of Mormons, pretty much covers what the Mormons believe in. Maybe we, as Christians, can ask Jesus to let us percieve the truth - rather than accept YOUR ‘facts’ without question?

http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2010/10/let-there-be-light?lang=eng&media=video

The problem here is, perhaps, that you presuppose that you are the ultimate arbitor of who believes in what and whose God ia a flse “God.” Is it possible tha you are not as omnipitant as you believe? You state that Mormons believe in a ‘false God’ and presume that no one should question your statement. Doesn that strike you as a bit presumptuos? (Rhetoric - of course you couldn’t be wrong. You state it as fact, know a your belief.) Myself, I think most Freepers have minds capable of deciding for themselves and going to the source of the matter - and makeing their own judgments.

Yes, FREEPERs, decide for yourselves...read the following quotes from Mormon leaders -- and decide for yourselves if the Mormon "god" is the REAL ultimate God or not:

(1) LDS "Apostle" Bruce McConkie wrote, "The Father is a glorified, perfected resurrected, exalted man who worked out his own salvation by obedience to the same laws he has given to us so that we may do the same" (A New Witness for the Articles of Faith, pg. 64).

As somebody once pointed out...Notice McConkie's use of the word "resurrected" and the phrase, "worked out his salvation." Only those who die can be resurrected, and only those who are lost need salvation.

Bottom-line here:

Mormon leaders have taught that Heavenly Father needed "salvation!" And, since death came due to sin (either your own, or in Jesus' case, someone else's), whose sin caused Heavenly Father to die, Mormons? Whose sin was around that prompted his death? His own?

Also, please note another aspect of this Lds "apostle's" claim: He said Heavenly Father is a "perfected...exalted man." Interesting. Why did He say "perfected" -- vs. "perfect? This Lds "apostle" claimed Heavenly Father needed a spiritual makeover and needed to be perfectED!!!

(I guess that shows you what kind of sinner-saved god Mormons REALLY embrace!!!)

(2) What other Lds general authority comment supports the notion that Lds worship a sinner-saved god?

Well, after B.H. Roberts, the next "deep theologian" to fill the ranks of Mormonism was Lds "apostle" James E. Talmage.

Here's how Talmage weighed in on this: "...but though the Son is glorified with the glory of the Father, you can't change the fact that He is the Son of that Father,
and that Father,
the Eternal Father,
the Father of Jesus Christ,
the Father of His spirit
and the Father of His body,
was once a Man,
and has progressed,
not by any favor but by the right of CONQUEST OVER SIN,
and over death,
to His present position of priesthood and power,
of Godship and Godliness,
as the Supreme Being whom we all profess to worship"
(James E. Talmage, Conference Reports, April 1915, p. 123).

So there ya go! Talmage says the Mormon god "progressed...to His present position of...Godship". He got the "godship" job! And how did he manage that? Well he won via a "Conquest over sin"!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and death)

Hmmm...the Mormon elohim was a sinner!!!! (says a prominent Lds "apostle" still repeatedly cited by the Mormon church and by Mormon leaders)

Per the Mormon Journal of Discourses: "God our Heavenly Father was perhaps once a child, and mortal like we are, and rose step by step in the scale of progress, in the school of advancement; has moved forward and overcome, until He has arrived at the point where He now is" (Lds "apostle" Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses 1:123).

So. Mormon leaders have stated that Elohim (God the Father), as a mortal on some distant planet similar to Earth, went through the same struggles as present-day humans in order to obtain his Godhood. In the words of LDS Apostle Orson Hyde, "God our Heavenly Father was perhaps once a child, and mortal like we are," HYDE is claiming GOD (our Heavenly Father) was mortal like we are. To be consistent, HYDE is claiming mortality for GOD, so it would have to include "a sinful nature".

Well, again, we know from history that mortality was provoked by things having to do with a tree. In the book of Genesis, it was rebellion (sin) by picking fruit from a forbidden tree. And for Jesus, it was donning a tree (the cross) to pay for the fruit of Adam & Eve's sin passed down throughout mankind. So sin was linked to mortality somehow -- either thru direct sin or indirectly taking on the sin of others.

So, again, if the Mormon elohim was mortal, why? Was it his sin -- or that of another?

Other Lds leaders even elaborated a bit beyond that: "The doctrine that God was once a man and has progressed to become a God is unique to this Church. How do you feel, knowing that God, through His own experience, 'knows all that we know regarding the toils [and] sufferings' of mortality?" (Brigham Young, Teachings of the Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young, p. 34, brackets in original)

So Brigham claimed the Mormon god knows all about the "toils & sufferings" of mortality from firsthand experience!!!

And another Lds "apostle," Orson Whitney, emphasized that "Mormonism teaches that God was once just like ourselves; that the eternal part of Him was enshrined in mortal flesh, subject to mortal ills and earthly pains and toils." (Orson F. Whitney, May 6, 1892, Collected Discourses 3:45)

So perhaps the "best" way for us to describe the Mormon god, per their "apostles," is to first ask Mormons to describe themselves, since Whitney says he "was once JUST LIKE OURSELVES!" That not only includes mortal flesh, but mortal ills. (And guess what prompted mortal ills?) That's right, sin.

(3) Finally, consider what two other Lds "apostles" claimed:
"God and man are of the same race, differing only in their degress of advancement" (John A. Witdsoe, Rational Theololgy, 1915, p. 61)
Wow!!!
And: "Gods, angels, and men are all of one species, one race, one great family, widely diffused among the planetary systems as colonies, kingdoms, nations, etc." (Parley P. Pratt, The Key to the Science of Theology, 1978, p. 21)

Parley P. Pratt, btw, is Mitt Romney's G-G grandfather! (And Romney says he is sticking to the "faith of his fathers!")

So...if ya wanna know the gods of Mitt Romney & his fellow Mormons...well...if you saw aliens from another planet, and one said they were humanoid just like us, and another said, "Yeah, I'm humanoid, too. But I'm also divine." Well, there's your Mormon master race! Aliens from heavens, Mormons all of them, some claiming to be man-made gods, and others claiming to be future man-made gods.