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To: meadsjn

evang’s anger and vitriol toward AA is key here. This guy is a cauldron of rage. Don’t be fooled by his testimonial for his own way being the only way. I’ve been sober for 22 years and have never heard of his book or him before.

Love it(not)when a Freeper strays and posts a self aggrandizing thread that goes against all common sense and proven methods of success, then berates, castigates or condemns anyone who doesn’t agree with them.
Can you imagine what his “meetings’ are like? I would urge the unsuspecting participants to RUN. lol


32 posted on 08/12/2012 1:53:32 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: Mountain Mary
You are just hearing about the book, because the book was just written. You folks who are quick to attack people personally, who you have never met or know is a clear indication of a serious character defect or flaw. Take a good look in the mirror at yourself. It would be rather difficult to have heard about a book 10 or 20 years ago that was only written and published in April 2012. Anger? God is angry at anything and anyone that promotes a lie. Read it for yourself. God hates "a lying tongue.....a false witness who utters lies." YES, if God hates it, so do I, and will make no apology for it. Read it again where it's very clear how a God fearing man feels about AA.

Psalm 119:104 "From YOUR PRECEPTS I get understanding; therefore I HATE EVERY FALSE WAY."

AA promotes and endorses MANY GODS; therefore, it's a FALSE WAY that is leading men and women astray. I base my stand on the word of God, not on the philosophies and wisdom of th world. On your summation of success: All men who live and die without Jesus Christ are ETERNAL FAILURES in the eyes of God. A man cannot be successful without Christ, because Christ is THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE. Without Christ, your way is false, without Christ, you have no truth, and without Christ, you're "dead in trespasses and sin." Reformation will never make a man successful, for he must be supernaturally transformed by the power of God, and the power of God can only be experienced Christ. Here is where the AA philosophy and worldly wisdom goes astray. Of course, "the natural man does not understand the things of God, he cannot, for they are spiritually discerned." Dead men can speak, hear, taste, smell, or feel. Without Christ, a man is spiritually dead, perhaps that's why you fail to understand my words. When Christ walked the earth, He physically raised men from the dead. He is still raising men from the dead, from spiritual death to spiritual life. Men without Christ cannot and do not know God.

36 posted on 08/14/2012 1:08:16 PM PDT by evangmlw
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To: Mountain Mary

I have over 30 years of being free from drug and alcohol addiction. That’s 8 more years than you do. I don’t have to attend meetings to stay clean; Christ keeps me clean, for the One who delivered me, is more than able to keep me. You see, I’m not only a conquerer, but “more than a conqeror in Christ.” You don’t know me from beans, and your assessment and attempt to make me a liar only serves to expose the darkness that lingers in your lost soul. I will now do as Christ Himself has exhorted me, I will now “shake the dust off my shoes,” and will no longer “cast my pearls before swine.” Love? There is no love outside of Christ. When Christ loved men and confronted them with the truth — THEY CRUCIFIED HIM. Is that what you are not doing to a man that you have never known? Have you read the book? Then how can you make a sound judgment on it? Of course — you can’t! You are not only guilty of attacking someone who has shared the truth with you, you have attacked Christ and the truth He brought to the world. Remaining in darkness is a choice that Christ affords you. Christ is life to some, and death to others.


37 posted on 08/14/2012 1:19:54 PM PDT by evangmlw
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