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To: boatbums; vladimir998
"Sure you did. You have made it more than obvious that you consider EVERY non-Catholic opponent of Catholicism - no matter what the issue or subject - an "anti-Catholic Protestant liar".

You make Vlad's case almost as good as he did. You do realize that an "opponent of Catholicism" is by definition "anti-Catholic" and every opponent of the Truth a liar, don't you?

Peace be with you

149 posted on 08/10/2012 10:18:09 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law
You do realize that an "opponent of Catholicism" is by definition "anti-Catholic" and every opponent of the Truth a liar, don't you?

I'm sure that is how immovable, eyes-slammed-shut Roman Catholics think, but it doesn't make it so. I think many Roman Catholics are "anti-any Christian BUT Roman Catholic" (I won't use the word "Protestant" because y'all have made it into a catchall polemic curse word). There are numerous Catholic doctrines that meet your definition as "opposed to the truth" and, yes, I would call them lies. Does that transfer to all Roman Catholics being liars and opposers of truth? No. Many are ignorant of what Scripture really says in contrast to what their religion tells them it says. They are believing a lie, but it doesn't make them liars.

Demonic delusion afflicts many people and, as born-again Christians, we are tasked with the ministry of reconciliation - that of sharing the true gospel of Jesus Christ who saves us by grace through faith in him and by whom we are cleansed of all sin and are reconciled to God through Christ. Paul said if he or an angel from heaven preached any other gospel than what he had preached unto them through the revelation of Jesus Christ, they were accursed and their message was also. Telling people they can be saved by their own merit - even if combined with faith - is an accursed gospel and it cannot save anyone. This is the truth - confirmed by the word of God, preached by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and passed down from him to his disciples who preached it and made sure it was written down so that all humanity could know what is the truth.

Any church or organization that claims to be from Christ must be faithful to this same Gospel. We are not saved by what church we attend, what good deeds we do, what bad deeds we refrain from doing or any other act but only by faith. By faith we receive the gift of God which is eternal life trough Jesus Christ. Those who oppose THIS truth oppose God himself.

Grace and peace be with you.

153 posted on 08/10/2012 11:34:53 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Natural Law; boatbums
"You do realize that an "opponent of Catholicism" is by definition "anti-Catholic"

Anti is a prefix that means to oppose. Anti-Catholic means to oppose the Catholic, not to oppose Catholicism. The term is almost never used correctly, because in general, no one is ever opposing the Catholic. They're simply opposing the correctness, or truth of some particular element of their doctrine.

The general purpose and usefulness of the term is to change the subject from some particular subject matter to the person holding the title Catholic, so that the terms like bigot and hater can be applied. They are bigots and haters, because they are "anti-Catholic".

" and every opponent of the Truth a liar,

...but every liar is not an anti-truth. No one lies all the time. The terms anti-truth and anti-Catholic are bogus, as in illegitimate.

158 posted on 08/11/2012 2:05:52 PM PDT by spunkets
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