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“Mitt Romney, Mormonism and the Christian Vote”: A Biblical Call to Christian Ministers and Leaders
For the Sake of the Gospel.com | 2012

Posted on 08/05/2012 4:35:35 PM PDT by Colofornian

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To: Elsie

LOL! I now see that to be true!


141 posted on 08/06/2012 2:51:42 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Elsie

Good work! At least those with their ‘act like a Christian’ will see Jesus called it like it is. First time I’m sure these ‘know it all’s’ read it.


142 posted on 08/06/2012 3:07:43 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Parley Baer; Colofornian

Religious bigotry, yes, Mormonism condemns me and declares itself to be the only religion and that unless I submit to Mormonism and believe their foolish thought that Jesus and Satan are brothers, I am going to hell

Yes, Mormon religious bigotry is on parade here, and those who ignore it are only helping to display that mormon religious bigotry


143 posted on 08/06/2012 4:21:48 PM PDT by RaceBannon (I wont vote for a gay marriage marxist gun grabber, or vote for Obama, either)
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To: TrueFact; Colofornian

ahh, lets abandon right and wrong just to make you feel good about your vote

sure. Uh huh.

Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isa 5:21 Woe unto [them that are] wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!


144 posted on 08/06/2012 4:26:14 PM PDT by RaceBannon (I wont vote for a gay marriage marxist gun grabber, or vote for Obama, either)
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To: o-n-money

are you serious???
MOUNTAIN MEADOWS MASSACRE

ordered by Brigham young himself!


145 posted on 08/06/2012 4:31:30 PM PDT by RaceBannon (I wont vote for a gay marriage marxist gun grabber, or vote for Obama, either)
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To: RaceBannon
Religious bigotry, yes, Mormonism condemns me and declares itself to be the only religion and that unless I submit to Mormonism and believe their foolish thought that Jesus and Satan are brothers, I am going to hell

No. They will baptize you after you die, so everything will be alright.

I'm not sure that Mormons do believe that non-Mormons are all going to go to hell, but plenty of non-Mormon Christians believe that people who don't believe as they do will go to hell, so what's the problem there?

146 posted on 08/06/2012 4:38:27 PM PDT by x
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To: teppe
I could go into the weak underpinning of the Creed, and how it contradicts the vast amount of evidence in the Bible .....

I think you should. Make it a thread, maybe even a caucus thread. I would be interested in reading it.

147 posted on 08/06/2012 5:23:13 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2898271/posts?page=119#119)
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To: x

the problem is, people condemn us Baptists for our belief and demand that people who beliee as I do never be allowed to reign because I believe exactly what you say

but golly, BOTH Romney and Obama believe just that, yet, we must approve Romney!


149 posted on 08/06/2012 7:46:07 PM PDT by RaceBannon (I wont vote for a gay marriage marxist gun grabber, or vote for Obama, either)
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To: x

“No. They will baptize you after you die, so everything will be alright.”

~ ~ ~

I heard Glenn Beck talking about the above on his radio
program, no big deal according to him, he didn’t say much. I am not familiar with the teaching. Explain.

Glenn Beck has a good heart but he is so waylaid. Is he
going to make it to the election remaining vague about
Mormonism?


150 posted on 08/07/2012 1:42:39 AM PDT by stpio
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To: Elsie

A message from Our Lord given to Father Melvin ~

“Isn’t this STRANGE!

I got the same ‘message’ from the Lord; only MINE was printed on PAPER!!!”

~ ~ ~

Your replies makes me smile. True, don’t despise current prophecy and proof again, God doesn’t change.

I have been on this kick, trying to get believers of
“Sola Fide” to trash it. People should understand Galatians
Chapter 3. Look at the in-CAPS in the quote. We have to be a doer of righteousness, not by faith alone are we saved.

“No one is justified by the law because no one abides “by all the things written in the book of the law,” and thus everyone is ”under a curse” of death. It is through faith, the Spirit, and Jesus that we can receive forgiveness for our sins and thus be justified. But to ultimately enter heaven, we must not only be forgiven but OBEDIENT and love God, DOING the GOOD WORKS He has ordained for us to DO.”


151 posted on 08/07/2012 1:59:43 AM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio
But to ultimately enter heaven, we must not only be forgiven but OBEDIENT and love God, DOING the GOOD WORKS He has ordained for us to DO.”

Again, my 'paper says, in RED ink...

 
 
 

John 6:28-29 (niv)

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


1 John 3:21-24

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.


152 posted on 08/07/2012 4:46:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I see continued screeds about Mormons. OK, that’s some people’s thing; democrats vs. republicans and all. But I have NEVER seen any soul show that their religion is true. I believe that is why the Carville/religious types continually shift the focus to the philosophy of others and never substantiate their own.


153 posted on 08/07/2012 5:36:08 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Defeat Obama. Everything else is secondary)
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To: Elsie

Sorry Elsie, you can emphasize with red, yellow purple, whatever color, doesn’t matter. Look at Scripture in
context. No verse in Scripture should conflict with
another. If you follow the Church, her teaching, it
doesn’t, Old Testament and the Gospel.

Martin Luther’s FAITH ALONE is a lie, it came from his head not from God. The man was vile.

You recognized the falsehood of Mormonism, one day soon
Our Lord is going show you personally the Truth of the Faith.

There is only one.


154 posted on 08/07/2012 5:59:01 AM PDT by stpio
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To: Loud Mime
But I have NEVER seen any soul show that their religion is true.

Welcome to understanding mormonism!

155 posted on 08/07/2012 8:45:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Loud Mime
But I have NEVER seen any soul show that their religion is true.

MORMONism can't show that CHRISTIANITY is false; and yet that is it's supposed foundation!

156 posted on 08/07/2012 8:46:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Loud Mime
I believe that is why the Carville/religious types continually shift the focus to the philosophy of others and never substantiate their own.

Welcome to MORMONism 101!!!





Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

157 posted on 08/07/2012 8:47:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Loud Mime

Welcome to MORMONism 101

 

While we are waiting to start; enjoy the artwork on our walls.

If some of it seems shifty to you, just look at it real closely

 and it will stop moving, but another location will then start to crawl on you.

Do NOT think our DOCTRINE is this way!

 


 

 

158 posted on 08/07/2012 8:48:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stpio
Look at Scripture in context.

Sigh...




 
 
 

John Chapter 6

1 After these things Jesus went over the sea of Galilee, which is the sea of Tiberias.

2 And a great multitude followed him, because they saw his miracles which he did on them that were diseased.

3 And Jesus went up into a mountain, and there he sat with his disciples.

4 And the passover, a feast of the Jews, was nigh.

5 When Jesus then lifted up his eyes, and saw a great company come unto him, he saith unto Philip, Whence shall we buy bread, that these may eat?

6 And this he said to prove him: for he himself knew what he would do.

7 Philip answered him, Two hundred pennyworth of bread is not sufficient for them, that every one of them may take a little.

8 One of his disciples, Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, saith unto him,

9 There is a lad here, which hath five barley loaves, and two small fishes: but what are they among so many?

10 And Jesus said, Make the men sit down. Now there was much grass in the place. So the men sat down, in number about five thousand.

11 And Jesus took the loaves; and when he had given thanks, he distributed to the disciples, and the disciples to them that were set down; and likewise of the fishes as much as they would.

12 When they were filled, he said unto his disciples, Gather up the fragments that remain, that nothing be lost.

13 Therefore they gathered them together, and filled twelve baskets with the fragments of the five barley loaves, which remained over and above unto them that had eaten.

14 Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.

15 When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.

16 And when even was now come, his disciples went down unto the sea,

17 And entered into a ship, and went over the sea toward Capernaum. And it was now dark, and Jesus was not come to them.

18 And the sea arose by reason of a great wind that blew.

19 So when they had rowed about five and twenty or thirty furlongs, they see Jesus walking on the sea, and drawing nigh unto the ship: and they were afraid.

20 But he saith unto them, It is I; be not afraid.

21 Then they willingly received him into the ship: and immediately the ship was at the land whither they went.

22 The day following, when the people which stood on the other side of the sea saw that there was none other boat there, save that one whereinto his disciples were entered, and that Jesus went not with his disciples into the boat, but that his disciples were gone away alone;

23 (Howbeit there came other boats from Tiberias nigh unto the place where they did eat bread, after that the Lord had given thanks:)

24 When the people therefore saw that Jesus was not there, neither his disciples, they also took shipping, and came to Capernaum, seeking for Jesus.

25 And when they had found him on the other side of the sea, they said unto him, Rabbi, when camest thou hither?

26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.

27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.

32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.

33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.

35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.

37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

41 The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.

42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?

43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

48 I am that bread of life.

49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.


159 posted on 08/07/2012 8:53:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stpio
Martin Luther’s FAITH ALONE is a lie, it came from his head not from God. The man was vile.

Compared to WHOM??

SURELY not the Catholic hierarchy of his times!

160 posted on 08/07/2012 8:54:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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