Reflections on Homosexuality

Pastor Matthew ^ | 8/5/2012 | Matthew R. St. John

[Morgana]

"I wonder how many heterosexual married men sitting in our pews voice disdain for homosexuality but go home and quietly turn to the Internet to watch lesbian porn."

I need not ask how many FReeper men do the same!

[Yosemitest]

Those who support homosexuals are against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have NO sympathy for homosexuals!

Homosexuality is a "Mark" of disobedience.

It was given by our Heavenly Father to test us
to see ... if we will OBEY our Heavenly Father,
and abide by His commandments, statues, and ordinances.

Someone once asked

"Why are they [homosexuals] all so angry?"

The answer is in the definition of "REPROBATE".

rep·ro·bate \ˈre-prə-ˌbāt\ a. [L. reprobatus, reprobo, to disallow; re and probo, to prove.]

1. Not enduring proof or trial; not of standard purity or fineness; disallowed; rejected.

Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the Lord hath rejected them. Jer. 6.

2. Abandoned in sin; lost to virtue or grace.

They profess that they know God, but in works deny him, being abominable and disobedient, and to every good work reprobate. Titus 1.

3. Abandoned to error, or in apostasy. 2Tim. 3.

And the reason"why" is given in the Bible.

God has a cure for homosexuals.

But will we OBEY our Heavenly Father?

[miss marmelstein]

I refuse to be preached at by some dopey pastor who has not lived in a gay activist metropolis for over 30 years like I have! I learned everything I need to know about gay male behavior working at Studio 54 in the 1970s (Truman Capote, Mick Jagger and Roy Cohn - I mean you!).

[ReformationFan]

I’m Protestant but I think this is an interesting Roman Catholic response to this topic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgnfpEY59XU

[Hardraade]

Arrrgh. Sometimes I just can’t keep my trap shut!

http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2012/08/05/talibunnies/

[Morgana]

That is funny because I am Catholic and the preacher who wrote this article is Protestant.

Honestly I feel he made some good points in bringing to light the lack of sexual morality of even heterosexual Americans.

We need to hear this more often from both Protestant and Catholic clergy.

[savagesusie]

Good arguments. There always is compassion in Christianity—or should be. But to ever act like sodomy is not an obvious sin is grievous, as it is for other sexual sin. To enable sinners is evil. To push for laws that recognize the act of sodomy as a “right” is also evil. “Just Law” forbids it.

To not condemn evil, is also evil. Sinners always should understand what is Right and Wrong-—and they do, if they listen to their heart. People should never encourage sin, and dragging people into the sewer. That is really unchristian and confuses the next generation.

Christian Ethics are the basis of American Jurisprudence-—or was when we had a Constitutional government of Rule of Law (Justice).

[JoeDetweiler]

You may be right, but I’ve never seen any Freeper men argue that, because we do it, it mustn’t be labelled a sin.

I sin every day. Whether I repent or not is between my higher power and me.

[Old Sarge]

The homosexual goal is simply one thing: Unrestricted Access To Young Flesh.

[SoFloFreeper]

A lot of good and a little bit of error in this article. Overall, though, I agree heartily with his message.

Homosexual behavior is not right and the behavior is to be eschewed. Abuse of homosexuals is not godly behavior.

All of us are born sinful—whatever sinful habits we learn, whether sins of a sexual nature or of a different kind are to be avoided.

[SoFloFreeper]

What do you think he got wrong? He seems to have hitten quite a few marks correctly.

[MHGinTN]

Is not this ‘pastor’s’ tolerance of what God has told us is intolerable the very reason the sexual degeneracy presence is growing in the congregations and poisoning the pulpits?

[Morgana]

I believe Pastor Matthew’s main point was something to do with what Jesus said about helping your brother when you have something in your own eye. Know what I mean.

We are quick to be very harsh on homosexuality, with good reason, but on the flip side look at how much heterosexual sex offends God?

Every day Wagglebee, and other FReepers like him including myself post stories of how condoms are being passed out to 12 year olds. Okay those 12 year olds are not making water ballons with the condoms! So we can all see that sexual morality in America has gone in the tank and it is not just homosexual sex.

[ReformationFan]

I think the homosexualist movement would probably never have gained the power it has now if it weren’t for the acceptance of the birth control pill and abortions earlier in the 20th century. Both Rome and the major Protestant denominations had the same view about these issues until the Anglicans endorsed usage of contraception around 1930. The whole divorce of procreation from the act of sex paved the road for the mind-numbing idiocy of same-sex “marriage” today.

[CatherineofAragon]

"What if all the money and manpower available to Chick-Fil-A on August 1, 2012 were directed by Chrisitans toward eradicating the water crisis in Africa or poverty in the inner-cities of America?"

Pastor Matthew, I'm really sorry Chick Fil-A Wednesday bothered you, but incidentally, what did you think about the militant sodomites trying to bully people AWAY from CFA? Any disapproval for them?

Pastor Matthew, it's true that there's a water crisis in Africa. There's a drought in the US as well. What should we do about that?

Also, Pastor, how exactly do you propose we go about "eradicating poverty" when Jesus plainly said that the poor will always be with us? Are you privy to some special information He didn't have?

[CodeToad]

People have the right to make moral judgements for themselves. We as a society reject homosexuality for our own personal reasons, be it religious or it simply is disgusting to us. What has me bothered is that regardless of why we have chosen our views, we have them and are entitled to them, yet, the homosexuals want us to accept their behaviors without question. They want to remove our freedom of choice, which does violate our rights to religous freedom.

[maxwellsmart_agent]

There is evil in a man who, knowing he is a man, and knowing what is expected of him in this life, stands there and says he is gay. He is given all the body parts of a man. He was given all the mental parts of a man. For him to say he is gay is a perversion of nature, nothing else. All that is necessary for normalcy is for him to be what nature intended for him to be. Making up your mind to do otherwise is a choice, a choice that he should pay for.

[scripter]

You may be right, but I’ve never seen any Freeper men argue that, because we do it, it mustn’t be labelled a sin.

That's a valid point some choose to ignore.

[jwalsh07]

What he gets wrong is the same thing every liberal gets wrong. His default position is that heterosexuals are hateful and disrespectful toward homosexuals. The homosexual act deserves no respect, the Pastor himself says it is sinful. Do we now respect sin? What kind of inane crap is that? And why shou;d I respect anybody, hetero or homo, who insists on telling me how they get their jollies?

More to the point same gender people can not engage in sexual acts since the sexual act implies the possibilty of sexual reproduction.

I don’t hate or disrespect gay folks. I don’t care what they do in their bedroom until they bring their bedroom into my living room. When they do that they will get disdain, not respect.

[CodeToad]

“”What if all the money and manpower available to Chick-Fil-A on August 1, 2012 were directed by Chrisitans toward eradicating the water crisis in Africa or poverty in the inner-cities of America?””

What the Pastor fails to understand is that those are issues for the people that are affected to solve. No one can do that for them. He is saying that there are those without water or living in poverty because someone else didn’t give something to them.