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To: RnMomof7
This was not a general declaration..HE WAS ADDRESSING HIS DISCIPLES He did not call YOU His friend..

Ah, so then he didn't intend for them to tell others about his work on Earth? (You know, the thing He said made them his friends.) Wow, so much for the Great Commission.
He's not a personal savior? Guess the group-salvation stuff of liberation theology must be right after all.

Do you even think about the consequence of your theological positions?

And besides that; if things are as you say and I have no free will, then what does it matter that I do or don't? If God is not my friend, then why shouldn't I tremble in terror at the Great Despot? If God is as you paint, giving me no free will and not being my friend; then why should I believe that He intends any good thing for me?

But hey, maybe you're right. Maybe God created me to hate. Maybe God made me simply so he could laugh at my pathetic attempts at life.
After all, your God, being perfectly free creates man in his own image, but without any freedom and with an inherent sin-nature.

No, you must be right and the apostles wrong; surely God did not send his son to die for my sin because He loved me. Surely Jesus never thought of me at all, despite being God himself, and despite him forming me in the womb.

35 posted on 07/09/2012 8:58:32 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Ah, so then he didn't intend for them to tell others about his work on Earth? (You know, the thing He said made them his friends.) Wow, so much for the Great Commission. He's not a personal savior? Guess the group-salvation stuff of liberation theology must be right after all.

HUH?

You used that scripture to imply that Jesus was speaking about YOU..he was not ..unless you are saved you are an enemy of Gods..not His friend. .

And besides that; if things are as you say and I have no free will, then what does it matter that I do or don't?

If you are not saved it does not matter what you do.. every thing you do is sin.. EVERYTHING even works the world calls good

If God is not my friend, then why shouldn't I tremble in terror at the Great Despot?

Because He is Holy and Righteous and will oe day be your judge.. He can send you to hell..

If God is as you paint, giving me no free will and not being my friend; then why should I believe that He intends any good thing for me?

If you are not saved he has no good intent for you..

But hey, maybe you're right. Maybe God created me to hate. Maybe God made me simply so he could laugh at my pathetic attempts at life.

The purpose of creation is to glorify God and enjoy Him forever.. Men will never choose to love God without a movement of His grace on them first..Free will? Man will NEVER choose God.. so his "free will " is no gift .it damns him

After all, your God, being perfectly free creates man in his own image, but without any freedom and with an inherent sin-nature.

Is man still in the image of our Holy and perfect God now? What does the bible tell us?

Gen 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat [a son] in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:

You need to learn to read scripture..all promises in the scripture do not belong to all men..they were specific to the audience.. and Jesus called the disciples His friends..not you

36 posted on 07/09/2012 9:42:23 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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