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In the Communist revolution in Russia, the Bolsheviks welcomed left-wing Muslims into their ranks, and as a result approximately 15 per cent of communist party members were Muslims. In parts of Central Asia, Muslims constituted up to 70 per cent of the membership. Bolshevik leaders issued a call for a ‘holy war’ against Western imperialism. Lenin asserted that it was necessary to support Islamist movements under conditions in which they contested local ruling classes, colonial control, or both. Lenin defended this political alliance with great vigor against those who believed that communists should have no dealings with religious activism. Lenin argued that to persuade such movements in the ‘colonial’ world needed to show them that their future lay with the workers of Europe against the imperial powers and that a dual approach was required. The evil of Islam is this overriding "conquering" as its goal.

[Sarcasm] B-B-But the Bolsheviks were Jews!!! The poor wittle muzzies were victims of Zionist Bolshevism just like whites in Africa were! [/sarcasm]

Honestly, you folks have no idea how many people still say this. Just run a simple web search and prepare to hurl.

In looking at your earlier post-- which pulled together rather well in my opinion-- you have "nailed" the liberal mindset.

ALL of these divergent "angled" constituencies fit into the various pigeonholes of liberals. This is because that is HOW they view the world--every individual is some cause or subset which they massage for a VOTE in an election as needed-- the "special interests" they constantly lambaste.

Conservatives, who view people as people-no matter who they are- with unalienable rights given to each by GOD (even if they don't believe in the same or.. any GOD), have to twist into knots to deal with each of these "touchy" reactive subsets (gays, muzzies, illegal immigration, minorities-- you name it, they all have axes to grind). As Conservatives this is not really possible and so is quite disturbing. The socialists pander for the vote, and only care about holding power for "greater" goals.

My posting to Pontiac was to demonstrate how Lenin and other leaders of pre-Stalinist Bolshevism viewed Muslims-- as grist for the mill that would become the totalitarian STATE. Later, Stalin blamed/purged the "jewish" Bolsheviks (most of them anywya) and Lenin and the rest is terrible history of a psychopath statist. The liberals/socialists/Marxists in this country are STATISTS. And they are anti-Semitic (anti-religion esp. Christianity) selectively hating practicing orthodox Jews,and using muslims as needed to accomplish STATIST goals, just as the Bolsheviks did.

Again, in my opinion, amongst these statist liberals are many who have denounced whatever relgious/spiritual beliefs they had in favor of the state, or who have aligned themselves with politically co-opted churches/branches of religion who need to feel good about themselves. It is something the Founding Fathers well recognized-- that there cannot be civil freedom without spiritual/moral ethics. But in the future socialist/Marxist State these beliefs are so--- "passe" to the superior State. And, they are quite WRONG, ignoring human nature and natural law- and it is why they have always failed. Deo Vindice.