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To: NYer

Human Beings have a right to their own bodies. Circumcision of infants or children should be banned as a violation of human rights. If ADULTS want to undergo circumcision, then by the same right to their own bodies, and right to their religious beliefs, they should be able to do so.

What level of physical disfigurement is the limit? Chopping off foreskins? Of chopping out entire clitorises in girls? Or chopping off hands or gouging out eyes of errant youths who violate religious proscriptions? How about chopping off heads of disbelievers, and shooting women who violate the religious “honor” of families?

As if humanity doesn’t have enough of a historical record to draw some obvious conclusions about this concept!

No.


14 posted on 07/03/2012 3:50:11 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker; Olog-hai; PA Engineer
Human Beings have a right to their own bodies.

That is just as much a statement of religious belief as is any dogma of Judaism, Christianity, or another religion.

It is not obvious from nature: seeing my 5-month-old daughter, who has received everything from me except some DNA and air, natural logic could conclude that I have ownership rights over her body, which is, so to speak, me. Your belief is not a general case from historic experience, in which many humans have legally been property of others.

Judaism and its descendant, Christianity, teach us that our Creator ultimately has ownership of our bodies, and that He can make legitimate demands, both in positive action and in restraint from action, on our use of our bodies.

31 posted on 07/03/2012 6:24:21 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The Lord will rescue me from every evil threat and bring me safe to His heavenly kingdom.")
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To: Talisker
Human Beings have a right to their own bodies.

Human beings have only the rights G-d gives them . . . no others.

Circumcision of infants or children should be banned as a violation of human rights.

"Should?" The only one Who can say "should" is G-d. And if G-d says that Jewish male children should be circumcised on their eight day, then that is exactly what should be done.

There are no laws but G-d's laws. "Secular law," like "secular morality" and "secular ethics" is ultimately a contradiction in terms. The only reason it is wrong to murder is because G-d has so decreed. And when G-d decrees that someone be killed (via the death penalty, war, or extermination of the Canaanites) then it is equally wrong not to kill.

It's time to put secular "rights," "laws," "morals," and "ethics" out of their misery.

47 posted on 07/03/2012 7:44:24 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Talisker

.Given the number of gentiles who have been circumcised, many millions your alarm is absurdly contrary to the facts.


109 posted on 07/04/2012 8:32:30 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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