No one will ever accuse either of them of being pithy. There is, however a name for a hypothetical construct created for the purposes of attaching it to a party and then attacking it, it is called a straw man. The simple truth is that a straw man created with 100,000 words is still a straw man.
I would also suggest you become familiar with something we witness often on these threads; the mind projection fallacy. The mind projection fallacy is a logical fallacy in which someone thinks that the way they see the world reflects the way the world really is, going as far as assuming the real existence of imagined objects, or in our case actual Catholic doctrine. That is, someones subjective judgments are "projected" to be inherent properties of an object, rather than being related to personal perception. One consequence is that others may be assumed to share the same perception, or that they are irrational or misinformed if they don't. Another manifestation of the fallacy is when one assumes their own is when someone assumes that their own lack of knowledge about a subject as meaning that the is is not or cannot be understood by others.
Peace be with you, FRiend
If you say so.
Another manifestation of the fallacy is when one assumes their own is when someone assumes that their own lack of knowledge about a subject as meaning that the is is not or cannot be understood by others.
Am I to assume that this is such a manifestation?