When I read your posts I get the impression of someone peeking in a window trying desperately to describe something they don't recognize and can't see clearly. The real problem is when you then try to argue with the homeowners about what is actually inside their house.
Do us all a favor and take some actual classes conducted by a certified catechist so that you can accurately portray Catholic teachings. I'm not expecting you to accept Catholic teachings, but at least you won't look so foolish trying establish the premise to any of your future arguments against her.
Until then, peace be with you
When I read your posts criticizing a Christian who is a former Catholic, I get the impression that no matter what they may say, no matter how well their statements are sourced and backed up by direct quotes to prove their point, that it will ALWAYS be rejected out of hand simply due to their comments hitting TOO close to home. Rather than presume that someone is peeking through the greasy window to see what is happening on the inside, low and behold, they HAVE been on the inside and know quite well what gets said and done out of the view of the nosy neighbors. Maybe you forget sometimes that most of us WERE Roman Catholics for a big part of our lives and some retain relationships with those still inside the "house". And perhaps contrary to your thinking, we even actually READ the documents and articles that get posted here daily as well as knowing exactly what is taught in the Catechism and the various writings of the Catholic theologians. Some of us even WERE catechists!
It may make such criticism easier to deal with if ones opponent can be thought of as simply ignorant of the teachings or out to "get you" with no genuine care for facts or authenticating information, but for those who are able to step back and view these exchanges objectively, it is easy to recognize smokescreens when we see them. You advise us to:
Do us all a favor and take some actual classes conducted by a certified catechist so that you can accurately portray Catholic teachings. I'm not expecting you to accept Catholic teachings, but at least you won't look so foolish trying establish the premise to any of your future arguments against her.
Maybe you could do US all a favor and dispute the arguments - if you can - and hold off on the insults and accusations of ignorance. It would make YOU look less foolish.
As to Daniel1212's assertion about Pelosi, Cuomo, et al, and the reluctance of the Catholic Church hierarchy to ever do anything more than just tsk, tsk at them, why aren't ALL faithful American Catholics DEMANDING that these public politicians that CAN and DO influence many aspects of all our lives be held to account? I agree that it sure looks like all bark and no bite and we know how effective such policies are. Your church has a long and sordid history of worse sins than this current bunch is guilty of in the upper echelons of power. I really do believe that is why liberal Catholics show no real remorse or reluctance for their actions - nothing's ever happened to them before, why should they worry now?
That sounds like an argument made by a cult member.
Do us all a favor and take some actual classes conducted by a certified catechist so that you can accurately portray Catholic teachings.
And I've seen this many times before. It's a weak argument used by Catholics who seem incapable or unwilling to articulate the dogma of the Church. I suspect that it's simply because Catholic doctrine has become so muddled that no one really knows what it is today. There are gobs and gobs of writings from which one can pick and choose that it's just too confusing. So Catholics simply just go along and try to convince everyone that the emperor really is wearing clothes.
>> “I’m not expecting you to accept Catholic teachings, but at least you won’t look so foolish trying establish the premise to any of your future arguments against her.” <<
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Oh!
Now we get it, Pelousey is actually a “Good Catholic.”