i often wonder if people who people who follow the 16th century tradition of men , ever really read the Scriptures they claim to follow.
case in point, the claim that Cornelius was baptized by the Holy Spirit in Acts 10. Acts 10 specifically says the Gentiles WERE NOT BAPTIZED, prior to Peter commanding it in Acts 10:48.
how do i know? V47 tells us!
Acts 10:47 “ can anyone forbid water FOR BAPTIZING these people who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have”.
there you have it, Peter says they had NOT been BAPTIZED up to that point. IF THE HOLY SPIRIT DID INDEED BAPTIZE THEM, THERE WOULD BE NO REASON FOR PETER TO BAPTIZE THEM.
There are not two baptisms for Chrsitians, for Paul tells us in Ephesians 4 there is ONLY ONE BAPTISM.
there is no record in the whole NT of anyone having received two Christian baptisms, one “spirit” and one “water” IT SIMPLY IS NOT THERE AND THAT’S WHY THE CHURCH HAS TAUGHT AND BELIEVED THERE IS ONLY ONE BAPTISM FOR 2,000 YEARS.
it would be helpful to some to take off the 16th century tradition of men glasses and actually read what the Scriptures say.
maybe, just maybe, one will see what Christians have taught and believed for 2,000 years.
You again are ignoring what opposes you and refuted your assertions, which remain just that, while your apparent simple-minded (which you confess you are) inability to understand or allow different types of baptism (which includes Lk. 12:50; 1Cor. 10:2) and the contextual nature of terms excludes you as a theologian.
You also ignore my challenge to “find another Catholic who will argue here that Cornelius and company did NOT receive remission of sins and the Holy Spirit prior to baptism, and or that if anyone did under the New Cov. then they would not have become part of the body of Christ.”
With such i will actually exchange, but no longer with you. Bye.
NOT THE church but the catholic church is WRONG WRONG WRONG!!
it would be helpful to some to take off the 16th century tradition of men glasses and actually read what the Scriptures say.
And, thankfully, to LUTHER, who was one used by God to fulfill 'the gates of hell shall not come against MY Church' - WE CAN READ what Scripture says and NOT the deception of traditions of the cathechism/catholic bible.
So God knew some 'church' posing as a church but is instead the gates of hell would come against HIS CHURCH already established BY HIM!!
God SEES ALL, KNOWS ALL - HIS WORD is the FINAL AUTHORITY!
NO glasses needed for HE/Holy Spirit DIRECTS our path. For we walk BY FAITH and NOT by sight. And HIS WORD is HOLY SPIRIT inspired.
maybe, just maybe, one will see what Christians have taught and believed for 2,000 years.
What CHRISTIANS have taught is GOD's WORD ALONE for that is the ONLY TRUTH.
Catholics, however...
"The man WITHOUT the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned." 1 Cor 2:14