Posted on 06/22/2012 5:12:13 AM PDT by Colofornian
Br’er,
I can certainly understand a conservative choosing Romney as not as bad as Zero - slightly. I have no problem with your choice at all. Can you understand that for many reasons I am choosing differently?
Ampu
Doesn't it register that there is something wrong happening when the Inman threads to expose the heresies of MormonISM are imimediately directed to attacking Milt and then slide off into denegrating Mormons in general? I can't be a party to that. It is wrong and it is precisely counter productive to awakening Momrons regarding the cult which trains them to thrive on victimhood.
Some of us have been predicting since Romney announced that the media scum would use MormonISM in contrast to the media's brand of Christianity as a tool to destroy opposition to Obama. I just didn't realize that missle of hate would be launched from FR by people who I believed were focused upon the souls cauhgt up in the cult. And even more, I was shocked that fellow Chrsitians so easily used The Gospel as a tool to try and squelch opposition to the assualt on Mormons (not the ISM) from folks I mistakenly thought had higher motives.
Some of us predicted that if Romney won the nomination that many Christians and conservative writers and pundits would become defenders and inadvertent promoters of Mormonism.
As a poster once pointed out: Unfortunately, for Romney to win the votes of Christians what will first happen, is that conservative writers, radio hosts, columnists, social conservative leaders, all of our talking heads, thinkers, and millions of rank and file conservatives and Christians will be drawn into the largest collection of, the most diverse collection of, the most creative collection of Mormon apologists, in history.
Mormonism will be daily rationalized, ways to smooth over Christian concerns will be thought of and delivered on the air waves, just as Hugh Hewitt and Michael Medved already do. Limbaugh and others will fall into a daily routine of countering and defeating Christian protests against Mormonism. New creative thoughts and reasoning will come from National Review, and Fox
The right will be sucked into becoming the foot soldiers of mainstreaming and rationalizing Mormonism.
My agenda as a Conservative Roman Catholic American, is to prevent anti-Mormon bigots, from helping to return America destroying Obama to office.
You didn’t like my answer because I didn’t take your bait.
TODAY, Romney is Pro-life.
Therefore, I am NOT voting for someone who is pro-abortion.
And your question has no point.
Dr. Bernard Nathenson, was once head of NARAL and this nations most prolific abortionist.
The last 20 years of his life, he was one of this nations strongest Pro-Life advocates.
There are many examples of people changing their views on the issue of life.
THAT is how I reconcile supporting Romney!
Pope John II officially pronounced that Mormons are not Christians.
Here we are on the religion thread as you bash Christians for speaking out on Mormonism as well.
“To accept Romney at his word would require both proof and time.”
False logic.
All it requires is that I accept his word.
Especially in the face of the only alternative.
How well have you prepared yourself to counter the graying out of the heresies in Mormonism? Do you think the next four years of a Rominy presidency will not be a target rich environment for exposing the heresies in the ISM? Do you think We The People should take the collapse barry and his thugocracy have planned, without making the attempt to halt him and reign in the liberal Milt Rominy faux high melchizedek priest in the ISM?
When we use hyperbole to try and utterly destroy the only best opportunity we're going to get to remove little barry bastard commie from power by peaceful means, we serve waht genius? If Romney is elected, the work starts in earnest with a national stage upon which to present proof that MormonISM is not Christinity, not even remotely. But if barry is allowed four more years, at the end of his work what do you imagine will be the world-wide scene, as raids upon families, to steal their stored food and water will do to MormonISM?
And so you see that hyperbole can be used in many ways, eh? Now, try to think hard before you post even hinting that to be a 'good' Christian you must allow Barack Obama to win the election because a Mormon in offcie would be catastrophic. I assume you will be putting on the breatsplate, taking up the sword and hacking intot he heresies of MormonISM as we have done int he past, if Romney is elected. The work gets harder because it will be more intense and you will have to be strengthened or leave the field of battle. But hacking at individual Mormons only feeds their learned sense of victimhood.
I see a Romney presidency as a massive opportunity to compare and contrast with even the vermin in media in the fight! What do you see? We The People might just save our Republic, too.
Mostly we are firing Obama.
Is that too hard to comprehend?
“yet we have no conversion, no journey, no self searching, no doubts, merely a bloodless, unemotional, policy switch”
Were you looking for a book or a movie?
Is this really the excuse you’re using to support Obama?
If you’re not voting Romney, your actions support Obama....excuses and memes aren’t worth much in this fight.
Here we are in the religion section of freerepublic, as you fight to silence Christians from discussing Mormonism, at least negatively, and you do it with the promise that Christians can again speak out freely against the Bishop, once they make him President of the United States.
As sad as that darkly inspired promise is, my bet is that the Romney crowd will merely point out that as the president is engaged in legislative battles, or mid term elections, or war, or reelection, that 'now' is still not the time to criticize Mormonism either.
My understanding is that freerepublic will not allow a smothering blanket to be put over Christian discussion of Mormonism, or even conservative discussion of your man Mitt.
I posted about the lack of a conversion that you were trying to sell, a conversion which never happened, and that now you seem to not have cared one way or the other about.
Was Pope John II a bigot for being so committed, so outspoken against Mormonism?
Catholics do like to make a strong statement of being Catholic as they get on the religion threads to defend/promote Mormonism.
Read your own post and notice where you tried to push buttons you thought would elicit the kind of reaction which would give you that little smug satisfaction of causing an over reaction.
You whine that this is a religion thread, yet you spend all your energy trying to float hyperbolic accusations at Romney and now at me. I'm going to have a small glass of cold milk and a shower, and then to prayers. Peace to you until you find another shark to jump.
Ok, whatever you want to beleive.
I gave you the time line, which demonstrates he is not, just him wanting to be called pro-life doesn’t make it so.
I can provide pages and pages as well, yet you have already decide to believe apparently that Romney is pro-life.
I know he is not.
You do what you need to do in order to support Romney that is your choice, my choice is not support liberals.
Especially in the face of the only alternative.
Interesting.
Post 171 was superbly accurate, and I checked, this is in Religion.
Pro-Mormonism and pro-Christianity both have a voice on this thread.
Apparently who Romney actual is does not matter, except that he is not BHO.
((sigh))
I am so glad I do not suffer from either BHOhysteria or BHOphobia.
Eh... It’s a passionate issue on all sides. I’ve been called all kinds of names, but I will still vote my conscience and ignore the attackers.
As to Mormonism, some here have DEEP scars from the cult. I fully understand why they would never vote for a candidate that helps further the cultic agenda. How could they?
There are plentry of reasons to vote against Romney - cultic, political, moral, etc. I only know of one reason to vote for him... And for me it just doesn’t outweigh the others.
I see a different endgame than many ABO types who can’t see beyond zero. I believe in the long run Romney will ruin the conservative movement.
Whatever you decide, I wish you blessings.
Frankly, opposing the false religion of Mormonism, that leads to hell is far more important than temporal events.
Ampu
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
“Basic upon what track record is Romney judge appointments deemed as a “superior chance?”
Based on politicians catering to their base if they want re-election and support. Like Romney did in a liberal state.
“And if you can’t, you are generically arguing from silence (the track record doesn’t reinforce your claims)”
Romney doesn’t have a track record appointing judges as a national politician wanting another term. Obama does. Chance of Obama nominating lib pro-aborts is 100%, no lucky charms needed. It’s a lock.
I agree pastor Jeffress wasn’t considering swing states or the electorial process, I think he was considering what a Christian should do or not do according to his understanding of the matter. I think that motive is reasonable to attribute to a conservative Baptist pastor.
“If FREEPERS were true consistent conservatives, they would ONLY vie for Romney to win votes in states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida and similar swing states.”
I live in Va. Why should I vie for Romney? The answer to that question is the same reason, in my opinion, pastor Jeffress said he would hold his nose. He certainly didn’t support Romney when there were other choices for the ‘pub nomination. At least he had that choice, my choice was between Romney and Paul.
Freegards
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