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To: Jvette

>> “The Christian believes in the resurrection of the body, not replacement with a new body.” <<

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No, Christians do not believe that; catholics may believe that, but I know plenty of them that know that “corruption must put on incorruption.”

1Cr 15:50 ¶ Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

1Cr 15:
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal [must] put on immortality.

Biological bodies, “flesh,” can only exist in Space-time, not in the realm of God. Our current home is to be destroyed:

2Peter 3:

10] But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

[11] Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

[12] Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?


310 posted on 06/17/2012 6:07:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: editor-surveyor; Iscool; metmom

LOL, really now?

Jesus rose from the dead and He had the same body He had when He died, glorified and changed yes, but it still bore the wounds He suffered on the cross.

And, those who rose from their graves when He died, what of them, what of their bodies? Did they disintegrate? Did they go back into their graves? They were seen moving about. Were they seen as rotted corpses? Or did they have their glorified bodies?

*****How is a new body unscriptural?

We HAVE to have a new body for two reasons.... one is the sin factor, so it is a perfect, sinless body which can tolerate being in the presence of a holy God, and the other is that this natural body is very fragile and could not survive being taken up off this earth. A few moments of no oxygen and it’s done. *****

You cannot cite me ONE SINGLE verse in Scripture that supports a new body, one that is different from that we possess now. No, the grace of God which forgives and washes away our sins also glorifies our bodies.

Those who have been cremated still have a body and God is fully capable of bringing that body back together and back to life, just as He raised Adam from the dust of the earth.

*****For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. 53 For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality.*****

And the dead will be RAISED. Couldn’t be clearer than that. If our souls do not die, are immortal, then it is only our flesh which is dead and our flesh which will be raised.

******Jesus may show up with 3 arms and 5 legs...Nobody knows and John didn’t know...*****

John also saw Jesus as the Lamb who was slain. And the Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes. So what? Revelation is imagery and symbolism.

According to Scripture, Jesus rose from the dead. The body He had when He rose was the body He walked this earth in and the body which was slain and still bore the wounds of His passion.

1Cor 15
42So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body; 43it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45So also it is written, “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual. 47The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven. 48As is the earthy, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those who are heavenly. 49Just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we will also bear the image of the heavenly.

50Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, 52in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, “DEATH IS SWALLOWED UP in victory. 55“O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR VICTORY? O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR STING?” 56The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law; 57but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

It is sown perishable and it is raised imperishable. This is the body, the body which has died, it will be raised imperishable, glorious, powerful. It is raised fully alive in the Holy Spirit, alive in the way that God intended when He created Adam.

Adam and Eve were not created to suffer death and disease, they were not created to die, they died because of their sin.

Jesus lived, died and rose for the forgiveness of that sin and to reconcile the relationship man was meant to have with God. And, God created us humans, not spirits. Our bodies are not just a temporary housing for our souls, else why did God create bodies in the first place? And not just souls? And the bodies God created ARE GOOD. The sin of Adam and Eve came not from their bodies but from their heart and mind which they allowed to be disobedient out of pride. But, it is our bodies which suffer the consequences of sin.
And it is our bodies and our souls which will reap the reward of Jesus’ saving grace.

I repeat. A Christian believes in the resurrection of the body.


317 posted on 06/18/2012 9:01:17 AM PDT by Jvette
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