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To: metmom
Titanites: That is an invented conflict of those who do not trust in the Scriptures.

No, it's actually Holy Spirit inspired Scripture written by Paul. Galatians 2:21 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.

The Holy Spirit inspired Scripture written by Paul that you quoted is talking about righteousness through the law, which is correct. We are not talking of works of the law:

    Romans 3:20 20 Therefore by the <>deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin.
No, the works we are talking about are like in Matthew 25:31-46 where Jesus separates the sheep from the goats. Remember the questions:
    1. Did you feed the hungry?

    2. Did you clothe the naked?

    3. Did you give a drink to the thirsty, etc.

And if you aren't doing those kind of works it will not be good for you:
    Matt 25:41-46 "Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 'for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 'I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.' "Then they also will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?' "Then He will answer them, saying, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do [it] to one of the least of these, you did not do [it] to Me.' "And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
These are the same works talked about in James 2. It is surprising that people who claim to know Scripture do not know the difference between these works and works of the law.
161 posted on 06/15/2012 3:00:03 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites
Jesus didn't come to establish new works for us to do> He just elaborated on the Law, showing us what is required in intent, not just outward actions.

All He did was raise the bar.

Catholics misunderstand the Law.

For one thing, Jesus didn't come to change the Law but fulfill it.

Matthew 5:17-20 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

And the Law was never put into effect to save people anyway but rather to show us what God's standards are so that we could come to Christ for salvation.

Galatians 3:15-29 15 Brothers, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. 16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.

17 What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18 For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.

19 What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator. 20 A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is one.

21 Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22 But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.

23 Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24 So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.

26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

"Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law." = We are free from the obligation of trying to live by the Law when we've put our faith in Christ for salvation because we are now sons of God through faith.

172 posted on 06/15/2012 3:32:24 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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