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To: CynicalBear
You can rely on the physical, carnal, and rituals but I will listen to the Spirit of God and dwell on the Spiritual rather than the physical.

But you listen to your traditions, and not the clear words of Scripture.

Here is a suggestion. For just a while, ignore your traditions and read the Bread of life discourse in John for the first time. Assume that the words mean what they say - "This is My Body" means "This is my Body" and not what you pretend those words to mean. Explore the Scripure as if you believe Scripture to be infallible and true.

138 posted on 06/15/2012 10:59:45 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive
>> Here is a suggestion. For just a while, ignore your traditions and read the Bread of life discourse in John for the first time. Assume that the words mean what they say - "This is My Body" means "This is my Body" and not what you pretend those words to mean. Explore the Scripure as if you believe Scripture to be infallible and true.<<

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Deuteronomy 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.

Ezek 3:1 Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this scroll, and go speak unto the house of Israel. 2 So I opened my mouth, and he caused me to eat that scroll. 3 And he said unto me, Son of man, cause thy belly to eat, and fill thy bowels with this roll that I give thee. Then did I eat it; and it was in my mouth as honey for sweetness.

Jer 15:16 Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.

Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

John 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

1 Corinthians 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Matthew 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.

Eat and drink the word of God.

The day I see you physically eat a scroll or a book I might consider you serious.

140 posted on 06/15/2012 11:06:22 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: FatherofFive; CynicalBear
Here are some clear words of Scripture.....

John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

The Spirit gives life. The flesh is no help at all>

Couldn't get much simpler.

153 posted on 06/15/2012 1:26:00 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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